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Offline Chris400F

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Re: K2 4 into 2 exhaust (DIY)
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2016, 05:29:53 PM »
From what I have seen and read making exhausts is pretty specialised stuff.
Not only do you need to bend the pipes, making a matching set for a multi-pipe system, but also make flanges or similar on the ends for mounting the pipes to the head. You can't just bend this stuff over your knee.
Even Motad with all their experience don't seem to be able to get the bends quite right in their 400/4 replica system for the pipes to align perfectly.
I remember watching the Guy Martin programme when he was building a bike to do the Pike's Peak race.
The guy making the exhaust had a piece of kit that cost lots of thousands of pounds but he still couldn't make the pipes for Guy's bike as the curve radius was too small so they ended up welding short sections together to get tight enough bends.

Offline matthewmosse

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Re: K2 4 into 2 exhaust (DIY)
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2016, 08:53:37 AM »
Thin wall thickness of the material means it kinks or goes oval very easily. You can try packing it with sand and plugging up the ends to bend it ( putting a spring inside is a plumbers method for bending copper but would be unlikely to work on metal pipe, you'l still end up with a kinked pipe, just with a kinked spring stuck inside! there are other methods) and a mandrel bender is going to do better than one of the £100 machine mart style benders. Somewhere I have a custom bike magazine detailing how to build a diy mandrel bender for exhaust bending from a scrap brake hub and drum for this kind of job. or buy lots of ready made bends but I found that was looking likely to add up to quite a bit of cash just to get 8 bends for the downpipes. Then there are lots of welds. I'll report back when I have time to weld up my current batch of repaired exhausts using a few sections of stainless like you show to repair my cb250s pipes that have rotted their balance pipe out on two sets of pipes now, ditto a ca125. It worked out very cheap as a way to get pipe to sleeve over the rotted area and re make a balance pipe, so far I am very inpressed with the look of the pipe, quality of the swage to sleeve it over itself and the service of the supplier but I have yet to try to get bends made. I reacon a £100 bending machine such as I have would be fine to tweak a bend by say 15° or so in 1 mm pipe, but from expirience using mine, these benders sub 2mm pipe just collapses its wall too easily and ends up with kinks and horrid flats at about 45° when you need about 95° bends for the headers. For my stationary engines I have resorted to cutting and welding pipe at 45°  in a few places to get an approximate of the bend I want, and also just cutting up mild steel exhausts for cars. It works out cheap enough and works for a stationary engine, but getting those 8 bends with 4 that match top, and bottom could prove a pain. Might be worth asking about a reduction in price from the supplier of ready made pipes and bends to do say 2 sets of exhausts worth of 90° bends, then alter the ammount of bend a bit at home and weld up.
Got a 500/4 with rust and a sidecar and loadsa bits. nice and original and been round the clock

Offline El__burro

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Re: K2 4 into 2 exhaust (DIY)
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2016, 12:02:53 PM »
one last question before I give up on this..
Can i fit cb500 k 1972 on my cb750 k2?
thanks
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Re: K2 4 into 2 exhaust (DIY)
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2016, 01:06:24 PM »
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Offline Rob.b (Rob Birkett - RIP)

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Re: K2 4 into 2 exhaust (DIY)
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2016, 08:19:28 PM »
one last question before I give up on this..
Can i fit cb500 k 1972 on my cb750 k2?
thanks
el__burro

Hi Donk,

Have you got down pipes for a CB500 K? if so I'm interested if they are in nice nick.

Have look at this thread if you've not already seen it.

http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,10142.msg81379/topicseen.html#new

Rob

 
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