Cosworth CB550

[K2-K6]

I don't wish to do the guy an injustice but agree the wording does, as you say, make it look like it's coming from a bit of a chancer.  As already posted, it's strange that such an obvious reference can't be checked.

Whether the company themselves would have current info posted about something which is a fair way back we can only explore to verify. Be interesting if you get a response.

It'll probably need Trigger's man in a pub type conversation from somebody that saw it at the time to perhaps shed some light on it.

[RGP750]

From someone who has spent 46 years making foundry pattern equipment for all manner of projects including Cosworth to me
the positioning and quality of the name is just not right in several ways .
Prototype or not.

[royhall]

Have emailed him for more information, so let's see what comes.

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[royhall]

Well I have a reply from him, but it's as I assumed it would be. Here's my question and his answer.

Question:
Good morning. Just looking at your CB550 sale with some interest. The Cosworth thing is quite interesting but would need some evidence of being genuine. Do you have any receipts or other paperwork that would prove its history. Also, you refer to the Cosworth website that has information. Do you have a full web address for this as I cannot find any reference to it. Any chance of a quick answer as your auction only has 3 days to run. Many thanks. Roy
Answer:
All I have is what I've been told. The cylinder head as cosworth casting. If I had any paperwork I'd want a lot more for it
As I said, Dodgy Geazer!

[K2-K6]

You seem to have got to the bottom of it royhall. Just looks like he's taking a flyer at it.

It shows the power of a name like that though, and things with Lotus on them, that they'd cause anybody to take more interest if them.

I looked through some stuff at a car boot sale recently and there was a pile of car bits, in amongst which was most of the suspension uprights and wishbones from a Gp2 car. I asked him about them and the answer was "from an owse clearance, they was in the garrig mate". Just seems odd that something so technical would turn up in that environment.

Also,  did anyone see Banksie selling his original artwork at a street sale recently, nobody believed they where real so didn't really buy them at virtually no price, he thought that was amusing.

The Cosworth Honda then, bit of a Unicorn.

[Nurse Julie]

Well I have a reply from him, but it's as I assumed it would be. Here's my question and his answer.

Question:
Good morning. Just looking at your CB550 sale with some interest. The Cosworth thing is quite interesting but would need some evidence of being genuine. Do you have any receipts or other paperwork that would prove its history. Also, you refer to the Cosworth website that has information. Do you have a full web address for this as I cannot find any reference to it. Any chance of a quick answer as your auction only has 3 days to run. Many thanks. Roy
Answer:
All I have is what I've been told. The cylinder head as cosworth casting. If I had any paperwork I'd want a lot more for it
As I said, Dodgy Geazer!

Well done Inspector Clouseau.................Not much gets past the members on this forum 

[Tomb]

I've been following this thread with interest and seems I did the same as everyone else in doing some internet research. I too came up with nothing in the way of evidence to prove or even disprove the Cosworth link. I also thought the casting looked like any other Honda casting right down to the die cast flash lines still evident. I don't know for sure but wouldn't think Cosworth would have dies made for such a small production run.

It also reminds me of a similar event regarding provenance. Years ago a friend of mine was building an Egli Vincent, he had collected all the parts including Egli tank, he had almost everything he needed to start the build, to go with the tank he couldn't decide on a seat. Being a café race style bike we looked out for a suitable single race seat unit and one day found a dreadful looking single seat unit in awful condition on a autojumble table, this seat was the worst thing ever and we joked with the vendor about it who let us buy it for £1, as a joke we bought it, got it home to find it fitted the frame Ok. Circumstances changed and the bike was sold to a dealer in pieces, the dealer subsequently sold the pieces separately, we saw the seat listed as genuine Egli. It certainly was not Egli, but provenance was created.

[Woodside]

I love the idea of a cosworth cb....
As every one else spent far to long searching for a link...nothing!!!
I keep thinking about all the cosworth badged sierras that were about in the 90's..

[Chris400F]

I love the idea of a cosworth cb....
As every one else spent far to long searching for a link...nothing!!!
I keep thinking about all the cosworth badged sierras that were about in the 90's..

Stick one of these on your bike and Bob's your uncle!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cosworth-Engine-Block-Badge-Logo-Plaque-73-mm-x-14-mm-x-0-5-mm-Thick-/262693356506?hash=item3d29be83da:g:d-kAAOxyqOxRtzgs

[Johnwebley]

so this email from Cosworth only adds to the mystery


Dear John,
 
Many thanks for your e-mail enquiry. I’m afraid that we no longer have those records, so would be unable to confirm if those modifications were carried out by Cosworth.
 
Apologies that we’re unable to assist on this occasion.
 
Kind Regards,

James


James Crook
Account Administrator
Sales / Business Development
Tel: +44 1604 598544  |  Email: james.crook@cosworth.com
Cosworth Ltd, The Octagon, St James Mill Road, Northampton, NN5 5RA, England
P Please consider the environment before printing this email

From: noreply@cosworth.com [mailto:noreply@cosworth.com]
Sent: 05 December 2016 16:54
To: Sales at Cosworth Electronics <Sales@cosworth.com>

[Trigger]

Coswoth was a small company in the 80's. Since then they have moved to a new factory and other R&D places in the area. Any paper work records would of been binned, as it would cost a fortune to put everything on to computers. Had the same problem when researching on history of one bike, MCN had binned all there paper work when they moved.

[Tomb]

I was just looking at this bike with interest, not with an idea to purchase I might add.

He describes it as a 550, but looking closer a lot of it looks like 650, 650 front end - switches, M/C, handlebars, fusebox, headlight and ears. Footrests and ali bracket, wheels, brakes.

So is it a 650 with 550 engine and other parts, or is it a 550 with 650 parts added?

[Trigger]

Its back, or is this a different one ? >> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-500/222559965086?_trksid=p2055119.c100022.m2048&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D45144%26meid%3Dc9bcb19f4be1457c91f72023c987b02b%26pid%3D100022%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D322572560243

[Honda Al]

Man of few words isn't he. Did anyone ever get to the bottom of this last time?


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[royhall]

At least this time he's not bigging up the Cosworth thing. It's just a badge and a bit of Araldite. Bikes a pile of junk as well.