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Offline billdn

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putting the engine back in the frame
« on: November 19, 2017, 03:36:25 PM »
I'm not that far off putting the engine back in the frame, at the moment the oil pan is not on, neither is the clutch assembly, starter motor, oil pump ands right/left hand crank case covers (at the polishers) or carbs. Obviously the engine is pigging heavy and to keep the  weight down I thought I'd fit the aforementioned bits once in situ. Seems logical and looks like nothing will foul the frame if I do but I've a sneaky feeling I'm setting myself up for some problems. Any thoughts, anyone done it like this?


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Re: putting the engine back in the frame
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2017, 04:03:07 PM »
Nothing wrong with the idea at all, in fact, if you put the oil pan on, the engine won't go in as the pan fouls the frame tubes!

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Re: putting the engine back in the frame
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2017, 04:14:21 PM »
It's been posted on here a few times before. The best way is to put the engine on it's side on padding and then place the frame onto the engine. You have to leave off the sump pan and breather cover, probably carbs too.
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Re: putting the engine back in the frame
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2017, 04:20:33 PM »
Well that's good news, I've seen the you tube video on laying the engine on its side ...so it actually works ☺
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Re: putting the engine back in the frame
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2017, 04:47:36 PM »
I refer to my post back in January...   Removing and refitting the engine.

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Re: putting the engine back in the frame
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2017, 05:06:31 PM »
The only reason I didn't suggest that was I didn't know you had a stripped frame, figured you had a rolling chassis to put it in!
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Re: putting the engine back in the frame
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2017, 09:14:11 PM »
It's been posted on here a few times before. The best way is to put the engine on it's side on padding and then place the frame onto the engine. You have to leave off the sump pan and breather cover, probably carbs too.

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Re: putting the engine back in the frame
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2017, 09:51:54 PM »
This is the same method I used, it does work although it's easier if someone can help you lift the frame over the engine. I attached the front and back wheels while it was on its side to make it easier to pull it upright.
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Re: putting the engine back in the frame
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2017, 10:15:09 PM »
That's probably the best method for fitting the engine in a bare frame but not into a complete bike.
Whichever way you decide on, take your time to avoid chipping the paint.
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Re: putting the engine back in the frame
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2017, 09:39:51 AM »

Ive put the engine in and out 3 times on my own using the frame over the engine, the trick is you need the engine at about 20 to 30 degrees and I found it helped with the wheels on. Gives you a smoother pivot. As mentioned you need all those parts off to allow it to clear and plenty of padding.

Pipe insulation works very well!! Just take your time.. and good luck!

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Re: putting the engine back in the frame
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2017, 11:26:57 AM »
Yes frame over engine works for me to, with the help on the grandson I did it on my 750F1.
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Re: putting the engine back in the frame
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2017, 11:54:37 AM »
I found with my 500 four i could just lift it in on my own if no head/barrels fitted and outer casings clutch etc can be fitted when engine in frame, i think this is true of the 400 too. I have also used the frame over method if the engine is already in one piece and it works well.
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Re: putting the engine back in the frame
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2017, 12:18:13 PM »
Gorgeous looking engine Spitfire!

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Re: putting the engine back in the frame
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2017, 11:04:32 AM »
Gorgeous looking engine Spitfire!
Took a bit of time with paraffin, lolly sticks, Brillo pads, a Dremel and various other implements to clean it all up and then VHT paint, oven bake and that was the result.

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