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Offline Sgt.Pinback

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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2018, 04:27:22 PM »
4,271 miles????

.... and wrong front fender, air filter box, mirrors, side panel badges, even the exhaust pipes and the heat shield, the chain guard  ....


Edit: Just see... Janes already listed it
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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2018, 05:45:39 PM »
It must've been parked in the sun a long time for the tank to fade enough for them to describe it as orange.

Super low number, though, someone will pay daft money for that.
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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2018, 05:58:26 PM »
Low number, yes.
What engine number is it?

Anyway I wonder why she has many wrong parts with so few miles on it.
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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2018, 08:57:28 PM »
How bizarre, the listing has been withdrawn cos there was an error... or the owner was found out...  ooops cynical me  ::) 

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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2018, 09:03:15 PM »
Low number, yes.
What engine number is it?

Anyway I wonder why she has many wrong parts with so few miles on it.

I bet because she had an accident.

BTW: downpipe clamps on head are not the early fat ones.
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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2018, 09:23:15 PM »
How bizarre, the listing has been withdrawn cos there was an error... or the owner was found out...  ooops cynical me  ::)
There’ll be some frantic calls and emails from collectors eager to get their hands on No31 I imagine.... would be interesting to know what’s goin on...

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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2018, 01:22:17 PM »
I imagine someone will have made them an offer they couldn't refuse...

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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2018, 02:46:21 PM »
Anyway I wonder why she has many wrong parts with so few miles on it.

I bet because she had an accident.

Whenever super low mileage classic cars come up for sale, usually at super premium prices, it seems there is usually an untold back story behind that low mileage, often involving a blow up or serious accident, followed by years of legal argument, until the car is forgotten about locked up in a garage somewhere.

One case in point was Vic World's pre production CB750, which sat in the back of a dealers for decades once they had realised that standard gaskets wouldn't fit to stop an oil leak.
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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2018, 03:04:32 PM »
It might well appear on sandcast forum with a story behind it
The wrong parts can easily be Corrected then  what a nice early bike

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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2018, 03:13:57 PM »
Engine No. 66  :) :)

On Jan-16-18 at 08:51:57 PST, seller added the following information:
::EDIT:: In response to inquiries and new information not preciously known to me. I have answered all as completely as I could. This is my first time selling a motorcycle of this age and vintage and I have a lot to learn. I appreciate the kind encouragement and guidance from the sellers and bidders who have been so interested to learn more about this bike. PLEASE READ BEFORE BIDDING THESE EDITS ARE CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THE ORIGINAL INFORMATION.


*Re: More Photos or better Quality - As per request I have added 12  new photos showing the condition of the pipes, areas of paint damage, Engine stamp, VIN Stamp, Fuel Tank, Front Sprocket (counter-shaft) and chain where it enters the engine. They show all her blemishes, including ones I previously was not aware of.

*Re: History and Condition - The VIN Number is CB7501000031- it is stamped into the frame. The Engine Number is 66, Frame number is 31. Based on research from Sandcastonlydotcom I speculate that the bike was built before  7/22/1969 (E71) and assembled and shipped to the USA for sale by November of 1969. No documents of the original sale exist. The bike was acquired in 1973 by the dealership after the owner brought it in for repairs. The owner of the bike chose to trade it in instead of having it repaired. It spent from the summer 1973 to the spring of 1997 in our dealership warehouse when it was moved to the show room floor. It has been there ever since. The bike has 4271 original miles on it.

The bike has had some repairs done to it - the Front fender was replaced and also the airbox cover with 1969/1970 CB750f Parts. At some point the alternator cover began leaking oil and JB weld was used to seal the leak. There are numerous scratches and the paint has suffered fading and chipping, especially in areas near joints such as the threads and welds where the mirrors and signal lights attach. The glass of both gauges have cracks. The fuel tank was stored empty but some rust has accumulated but the integrity of the tank is good.


*Re: Fuel Tank - Could not determine true volume but presumably 19L or 5.0 US Gallons as specified by online sources. The Tank lacks the throttle cable impressions that were added in later CB750 models.

As before the winner of the auction is responsible for transport and delivery, It is not possible for us to ship this bike.

Thank you for all your paitence and interest.
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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2018, 03:42:43 PM »
I don't believe the story... for so many parts  been replaced at 4000 miles not really consistent with an accident
But still a great find for someone

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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2018, 06:10:18 PM »
For all my harumphing about the wrong bits (having spent years at the back of a Honda dealer's workshop, I guess some bits will probably have been robbed as needed for customer bikes) I wish I'd had the chance to buy one with such a low number. (Says a man who owned an early CB750 when it was just another used bike in the 70's then swapped it for a Norton, see another thread).

I notice that as well as being in a different place to later bikes, which I know is correct, the horn body is made of a grey plastic. I remember reading about grey plastic parts on the pre production bikes, Vic World's 'untouched' sandcast has a black horn body. Interesting....

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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2018, 06:56:11 PM »
I never believe the mileage on any old bike especially when there almost 50 years old.
My green 750 has done almost 90,000 but according to the speedo that I changed its done 24,000 and with its half assed restoration and the lack of me keeping it clean it's now got the patina of a 46 year old low mileage bike.
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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2018, 07:15:57 PM »
It is always hard to believe old bikes with low mileage .usually when  they have all original parts that usually helps out the story
I have my self a lovely 9000 mile F1 to restore it came to me with all its original parts and most of the bolts have never been undone and have the yellow  markings on them, the chrome has tarnished though


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Re: Sandcast #31 on eBay..
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2018, 11:22:54 PM »
I’d say the rev counter isn’t a sandcast part looking at the gear on backside.
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