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MOT after May 20th?.
« on: March 29, 2018, 12:09:42 AM »
Hopefully all are aware that from 20th May Historic vehicles no longer need an MOT. This decision has spawned much debate in the classic community.

Interested in fellow owners opinions as to whether they will continue to mot their bikes every year or not

For me I probably won’t bother as I know that I maintain my bike better than most “newish” machines out there and I trust my mechanical skills and knowledge of my bike more than some testers out there.

Why would I want to risk life and limb on a dangerous machine. After all an MOT only says it was ok on the day it was tested.

Interestingly on my way back from mot last year with a pass with no advisories I noticed the top yoke had split on the rhs and the tester never spotted it!! Makes you think don’t it !!!

I keep all receipts etc. for any work done including oil changes etc etc that any future buyer can see and understand that this is a well maintained and cherished bike. After If I ever sell I can always get an mot done for a buyer if they want peace of mind.
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Re: MOT after May 20th?.
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2018, 08:10:13 AM »
I doubt that I will go to the trouble of travelling 20 miles into Kirkwall (and, hopefully back!) to get mine done - and like most of us there’s more than 1.  What I would like to do is have someone with a critical, classic eye give it the once over to make sure I didn’t miss anything which could be dangerous - split pins missing cracked tyre valves and the like. Like you I am confident doing anything on my vehicles. Perhaps we might set up a breakfast meet where we can check each other’s work?
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Re: MOT after May 20th?.
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2018, 08:47:22 AM »
I will still get mine tested, insurance companies can and will use no MOT as a reason to not pay out, and let's not forget the ones that just see it as a saving and are too stupid and or lazy to maintain their vehicles, after all its only a few pounds for a little peace of mind.

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Re: MOT after May 20th?.
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2018, 12:07:31 PM »
What is the position once we are past 20th May?

I currently have some bikes that will not need MOT's until after 20th May so is there something that one has to do once the existing MOT expires (every year?) or do nothing?

What is the position with those on which the MOT will have expired before the 20th May?

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Re: MOT after May 20th?.
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2018, 12:28:27 PM »
Taken from the Carol Nash web site.

Owners of some classic bikes will be spared the annual trip to the MoT station after the government announced plans to exempt vehicles over 40 years old from the annual MoT test.

Previously vehicles manufactured before 1960 were exempt from the annual inspection but the new rules mean some 50,000 or so more bikes do not need an MoT test.

The new rules, which come in during May 2018, bring Britain in line with most of the rest of Europe and will work on a rolling 40 year basis. As of next spring, all bikes built before 1978 will fall under the new rules, meaning that classic bikes like Triumph Bonnevilles, Honda’s iconic CB750 and the Kawasaki Z1 will, in theory, be cheaper to own and run.

The 40 year rule also applies to vehicle excise duty (road tax), which are exempt from any fees, although riders will still be required to have valid insurance for their classic bikes.

These new regulations also apply to classic cars and do place an emphasis on owners to ensure their vehicles are in a roadworthy state. While an MoT certificate will no longer be compulsory, drivers and riders may still present their vehicles for a voluntary MoT test and it remains their responsibility to ensure that their vehicles have no defects that would see it fail the government tests when they take to the public roads.

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Re: MOT after May 20th?.
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2018, 02:13:25 PM »

These new regulations also apply to classic cars and do place an emphasis on owners to ensure their vehicles are in a roadworthy state. While an MoT certificate will no longer be compulsory, drivers and riders may still present their vehicles for a voluntary MoT test and it remains their responsibility to ensure that their vehicles have no defects that would see it fail the government tests when they take to the public roads.

And that will be the ball breaker, insurance companies will look for the slightest excuse not to pay out.

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Re: MOT after May 20th?.
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2018, 02:36:28 PM »
i get all the rule changes..but does anyone kmow if it is automtic or do you need a trip to the post office..to apply for a new taxation class
also does a bike/car need a current mot before the change  to prove it exists...same applies to imported vehicles...as it stands the mot proves in a way to dvla it is real....
otherwise its going to be a free for all ...

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Re: MOT after May 20th?.
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2018, 03:05:38 PM »
Imported vehicles WILL still require an M.O.T. as part of the registration process. What REALLY scares me is the amount of scrap that will be put back on the roads, stuff people have kept in barns etc, and never bothered doing safety critical welding etc but can now put back on the road and sell on e-bay! Think Mk1 Escorts, rusty Cortinas/Capris etc! :o :o :o :'( :'( :'(
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Re: MOT after May 20th?.
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2018, 04:10:34 PM »

These new regulations also apply to classic cars and do place an emphasis on owners to ensure their vehicles are in a roadworthy state. While an MoT certificate will no longer be compulsory, drivers and riders may still present their vehicles for a voluntary MoT test and it remains their responsibility to ensure that vehicles have no defects that would see it fail the government tests when they take to the public roads.

And that will be the ball breaker, insurance companies will look for the slightest excuse not to pay out.

That applies every day to every vehicle now. If on the public road your vehicle must be roadworthy.
No change there.
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Re: MOT after May 20th?.
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2018, 04:23:38 PM »

These new regulations also apply to classic cars and do place an emphasis on owners to ensure their vehicles are in a roadworthy state. While an MoT certificate will no longer be compulsory, drivers and riders may still present their vehicles for a voluntary MoT test and it remains their responsibility to ensure that vehicles have no defects that would see it fail the government tests when they take to the public roads.

And that will be the ball breaker, insurance companies will look for the slightest excuse not to pay out.

True but it will now be down to you and an insurance company will be looking for the slightest get out ;)
That applies every day to every vehicle now. If on the public road your vehicle must be roadworthy.
No change there.
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Re: MOT after May 20th?.
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2018, 04:26:14 PM »
i get all the rule changes..but does anyone kmow if it is automtic or do you need a trip to the post office..to apply for a new taxation class
also does a bike/car need a current mot before the change  to prove it exists...same applies to imported vehicles...as it stands the mot proves in a way to dvla it is real....
otherwise its going to be a free for all ...
You can change the taxation class at the post office like I did last year. Take your V5 doc.
Looking on other sites you will need to get a form from the post office or online to claim for mot exemption can't remember the number, if I can find it again I will post it.
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Re: MOT after May 20th?.
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Re: MOT after May 20th?.
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2018, 08:40:04 PM »
 ;) ive tried to sit on the fence about this but when was the last time that motorists have been given anything ?
anyway i wont be bothering with MOT'S after this may .unless i decide to sell the bike and only then if the buyer asks for one i have always had at least five bikes on the road and this will save me £150 that will go towards petrol tax vat and all the other garbage we pay for
    i believe the modern MOT rules regarding the older bikes and cars do not comply with todays standard of braking and exhaust noise and emissions,if we had too adhere to those rules none of us would be even haveing this conversation we would all be zombie car drivers
we all know what brittish bike brakes are like and i drove a 3 litre FORD CAPRI and mini coopers for years a super tanker could stop quicker than any car made in the 60's and 70's
i think we should enjoy this little bit of freedom while it lasts because the clowns we have in power will take it back another way. just think of the traffic congestion potholes and poisonous exhaust fumes you will be saved by not running the gauntlet every year for the sake of a bit of paper, so get out on that jap crap and britt shit and enjoy another crap brittish summer  we are all to too old to give a toss anyway we have paid enough into the system allready

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Re: MOT after May 20th?.
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2018, 08:58:26 PM »
Definitively off the fence then …


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Re: MOT after May 20th?.
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2018, 09:28:17 PM »
Well said Mr Meldrew.   I won't be bothering with an MOT either.  I can look after my own bike well enough, having spanners every single nut and bolt on it.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2018, 09:32:13 PM by mike the bike »
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