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Dating help and insurance woes
« on: July 19, 2018, 04:09:22 PM »
Can anyone help... Please! To cut a rather long story short according to my own research my 550
Dates from 1977 BUT carries a 1981 Reg it is a uk bike not an import. I am struggling to insurer it because they can’t find a CB550 from 1981! I have contacted DVLA and explained the situation, they advised me to obtain a dating certificate from honda, send it to them and they could issue an age related plate for it , problem sorted with the added bonus of becoming tax and test exempt. So I contacted Honda UK for a dating certificate and today received a letter back from them to say it has not been possible to identify my vehicle and I should contact the vehicle manufacturer for the certificate. How do I find out where it was made if honda can’t!!
The frame No is CB550K-202766* engine No. CB550-202622*  has anyone out there have any experience of this many thanks. Tosh

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Re: Dating help and insurance woes
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2018, 04:25:16 PM »
Can't help with your woes at all Tosh but as a reference I have a bike here with VIN CB550K-201292* that was 1st registered in UK on 09/06/1977.
Edit....just thinking out loud, if Honda UK can't identify it, does this mean it is an import ?.
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Re: Dating help and insurance woes
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2018, 05:44:46 PM »
You can get a dating letter from the VJMC.

There’s a set of instructions here recently. I’ll post a link if I can find it.


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Re: Dating help and insurance woes
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2018, 06:02:05 PM »
550K3 were very slow sellers and could maybe have dragged out until 81. Honda UK should still recognise it, do you just need to supply them the VIN or engine no as well?
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Re: Dating help and insurance woes
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2018, 06:08:38 PM »
The above is correct, if its not a uk bike honda uk will not date it but you still need their letter along with a dating certificate from the vjmc (30 quid ish). Send them both off together to the dvla...

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Re: Dating help and insurance woes
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2018, 06:58:34 PM »
The V5 puts date of manufacture at 1981 on the same date as first registration. There’s not a lot on the bike to suggest it’s been an import but I don’t know the full history of it. I can post a pic of the VIN plate if that holds any clues as to its origin?

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Re: Dating help and insurance woes
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2018, 06:59:51 PM »
A pic may help.
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Re: Dating help and insurance woes
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2018, 08:07:07 PM »
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Re: Dating help and insurance woes
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2018, 08:47:59 PM »
Yes, that is a UK or European VIN plate. I think you just have a very, very late registered bike, not unheard of, it does happen. But , if Honda UK have no record, I would hazzard a guess it was an import from Europe in 1981.
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Re: Dating help and insurance woes
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2018, 09:19:15 PM »
Around the early 80's Padgetts of Batley.
Had a bike dealership in Preston called Express motors.
And I distinctly remember then selling a few NOS Honda 550's amongst other models. As your bike is not a million miles from Preston. So that could be a explanation.
Padgetts still have a load of NOS bike stashed away.
How I'd love to have a rummage in their warehouse.
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2018, 09:29:56 PM »
Around the early 80's Padgetts of Batley.
Had a bike dealership in Preston called Express motors.
And I distinctly remember then selling a few NOS Honda 550's amongst other models. As your bike is not a million miles from Preston. So that could be a explanation.
Padgetts still have a load of NOS bike stashed away.
How I'd love to have a rummage in their warehouse.
If that were to be the case, Honda UK would have a record of it I'm sure.
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Re: Dating help and insurance woes
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2018, 10:01:17 PM »
I’m now wondering how I would go about either finding which factory it was made and trying for a date certificatie from them or if DVLA would have a record of import in its archive and if so wether they would tell me. The problem I keep running up against is that I can’t insure it on line as the K3 doesn’t appear against the year and the dozen or so companies I’ve rang can’t find a box it fits into as Honda had stopped making them Pre 81 so there is no valuation data available so I’m told, perhaps I should just tell them I don’t know anything other than it’s a honda 550

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Re: Dating help and insurance woes
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2018, 10:36:29 PM »
Well after following your lead and writing back to honda , two weeks later I get a dating letter ! Seems they somehow managed to find a match after all so cheers for the advice it’s worked a treat 👍
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Re: Dating help and insurance woes
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2018, 10:00:34 AM »
I would strongly recommend going the VJMC route. Did it a few years ago and it was a very easy route. All was accepted by DVLA without question and an age related number issued. Whole thing took less than a month. For me it was completely hassle free (which is a bl***y miracle for the DVLA).
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Re: Dating help and insurance woes
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2018, 10:11:56 AM »
It will be very hard to get the DVLA to issue you a age related plate, as it already has a age related plate, to date of registration.
I have had the same problem with a 750K6 which is a late registered bike (1978).
As for insurance, surely this bike has been insured in the UK before, so a record is out there with the insurance firms. Try walking into a high st insurance brokers .

 

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