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Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« on: July 30, 2018, 07:47:51 PM »
Hey guys,

It has been a while, sorry for no updates on my project, however I've had quite a few big changes of late.

Deaths in the family, moved house (better garage) and the wife had a baby so lots of sleepless nights.

However finding the odd hour here of there where I can work on the bike so beginning to strip it down. It's pretty corroded and looks like someone has had a poor attempt at breaking it down in the past so a few stripped screws and bolts to tackle. Anyway mostly tackled these now with the exception of 3 completely stripped JIS screws on the clutch cover.

Next job will be to remove the engine for disassembly / inspection. however before I go too far I want to do a quick degrease of the engine, removal of old engine paint and hopefully tackle some of the oxidation.

Anyone got any tips on the best de-greasers and any way to remove oxidation.

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Re: Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2018, 07:55:37 PM »
My favourite degreaser is Viro-sol it costs squat and works incredibly well without melting the skin off your hands.
 
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Re: Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2018, 07:56:35 PM »
Best to strip engine and then clean parts.
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Re: Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2018, 07:58:19 PM »
Doesn't hurt to clean the worst off before hand. Makes it nicer to handle
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Re: Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2018, 08:25:57 PM »
I'd always go with cleaning before strip down, it just bugs me getting all that gritty crap into non contaminated internals if not necessary.

I would steam clean them first when I did them more routinely as it's just easier to get a first assessment in my view.

No view on current solvents to clean things as most of them don't seem to match older stuff I've used.

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Re: Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2018, 08:51:30 PM »
Cheers guys will give it a quick once over, possibly steam clean it then do a proper clean once disassembled.

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Re: Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2018, 09:52:16 PM »
Not that easy to remove oxidation from jap alloy and, once you have it leaves pitting. The alloy will have to be mopped down with a  Satin Lap Mop to get a good surface for paint  ;)

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Re: Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2018, 04:20:04 PM »
I use Paraffin and a brush, wont shift oxidation but great for shifting gunk
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Re: Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2018, 10:36:35 AM »
I did it the old fashioned way with paraffin to get the serious oily gunk off, then Brillo pads, sandpaper, Dremel, lolly sticks with cloth around to apply Solvol, was hell on the fingers but it worked.

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Re: Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2019, 10:56:52 PM »
Was going to start new topic on recommened degreasers as Jizer I am using not  brill but found this post doing a search. Paraffin would seem favoured. Any other favourites....?
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Re: Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2019, 11:16:42 PM »
Found some household cleaner called 'elbow grease' was quite effective and very cheap in combination with a pressure washer. Spray on let it soak in 5 - 10 mins then hose off. Mate had a xs250 with 30 years of crud around the chain cases - we found that quite effective to get it very clean of that tar like chain oil. Used it on my bikes occassionally.
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Re: Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2019, 11:33:42 PM »
Paraffin is a favourite for DIY but I also think Lemon Fairy Liquid, boiling water and a scrubbing brush is a serious contender.
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Re: Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2019, 11:39:51 PM »
Yes, household detergents and some warmth are at least not as bad smelling. I find lemon based cleaners cut grease better. Original source shower gel is as good as many industrial degreasing soaps for handwashing and more convenient to pick up on offer whilst being dragged around a shops with the kids.
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Re: Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2019, 07:33:26 PM »
I degreased mine with jizer, its perfect for the job, rinses off with water..... easy to use and readily available. Why do you intend to strip the motor? Is there a known problem? Does the motor look clean inside the rocker and sump? If so can you test the compression, if thats ok why strip..

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Re: Engine degrease and oxidation removal
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2019, 07:35:14 PM »
Ps. I wouldn’t go near it with a steam cleaner unless i knew i was definitely going to strip it completely down

 

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