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Offline Nurse Julie

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HISTORIC TAX, SORN AND THE MOTOR INSURANCE DATABASE (MID)
« on: September 13, 2018, 04:16:24 PM »
Earlier this year I caught up on some bike admin, we have bikes in storage that are not ridden but needed change of tax class to Historic. No problems with this at all, all very straight forward. Log books changed and returned by DVLA, bikes taxed as you can't change to Historic and re SORN at the same time, all the little leaflets in the envelopes from DVLA state ' A vehicle must be taxed or SORN' so as bikes were all compliant, log books filed away all forgotten about.

Today, I received a letter from the Motor Insurance Bureau (MIB) / DVLA stating that as there is no record of Insurance on these bikes, I am breaking the Law and if I take no action immediately I will get fined and receive fixed penalty points.

The letter states ' It is a legal requirement for a vehicle to be insured at all times unless it has been declared off the road'

Sooooo, even if the vehicle is Taxed, if it's not insured, it has to be SORN. Therefore I have had to SORN all the bikes in question, even though they are taxed!!!

FFS when are they going to stop making life difficult and stop changing rules without informing us.

I knew about the MID as I used to have to inform The Bureau of every vehicle in and out of the stock book when I had a Trade Insurance policy and that has been going on for about 10 years, it was just a computer exercise, but it never extended to private individuals.

« Last Edit: September 13, 2018, 04:18:32 PM by Nurse Julie »
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Re: HISTORIC TAX, SORN AND THE MOTOR INSURANCE DATABASE (MID)
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2018, 04:58:30 PM »


 with hind sight maybe you should have SORNed all of them,

 to have Historic taxed them,you should have had insurance at the time ??

  agreed,it makes life confusing.

 2 of my bikes are on the road ,historic and insured . The 3rd is SORNed  and not insured .


 
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Re: HISTORIC TAX, SORN AND THE MOTOR INSURANCE DATABASE (MID)
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2018, 05:12:17 PM »
Yes John, I should have SORN'd them as soon as I taxed them but thought that as they were taxed they didn't need to be SORN'd and the lady at the Post Office didn't ask for any proof of insurance, so I gave it no thought at all and all the leaflets say SORN'd or Taxed.......nothing about insurance.
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Re: HISTORIC TAX, SORN AND THE MOTOR INSURANCE DATABASE (MID)
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2018, 05:16:54 PM »
Apparently Continuous Insurance Enforcement (CIE) has been in since 2011. I'll need a reminder when my tax runs out next year as one of them is not worth a lot so don't want to waste money on insuring it for another year. Very easy to forget when SORN and tax are the same price (£0.00) for Historic. Introduced to clamp down on uninsured drivers supposedly.
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Re: HISTORIC TAX, SORN AND THE MOTOR INSURANCE DATABASE (MID)
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2018, 11:08:12 AM »
Because these people Julie,they never have or riden a motorbike...  >:(
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