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£250,000
« on: November 18, 2018, 10:14:05 PM »
Does this guy know what he's talking about, in a few years a sandcast will be worth a quarter of a million pounds, blimey!!, so on a pro rata basis my K1 will be worth up to a 100 grand, i didn't know that they are fragile,   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA3FFe-lSsw.   
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Re: £250,000
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2018, 10:19:36 PM »
So who wants my F2 for around £30K .. ....... .
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2018, 11:08:20 PM »
And why not !
I used to buy CX500's for £50 not that long ago  ;) And picking up UK CB 750 units for £500 with in the last decade.
I know a guy that has more than 30 CB, RD, KH, GT 250's still in there boxes from when they changed the L plate laws and the dealers just could not sell them so, he was picking them up for £50 to £75 each  :o

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Re: £250,000
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2018, 08:00:28 AM »
Any one want my 1/2 finished UK K1 96k ;) ;D ;D
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2018, 08:32:59 AM »
Any one want my 1/2 finished UK K1 96k ;) ;D ;D
It must owe you more than that already Paul 😀😀😀
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2018, 10:19:40 AM »
Where do I get GBP 45.000 for my # 1983 ?

I am thinking of selling her.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2018, 11:12:08 AM »
Any one want my 1/2 finished UK K1 96k ;) ;D ;D
It must owe you more than that already Paul 😀😀😀

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Re: £250,000
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2018, 03:52:15 PM »
In the middle of selling my Classic 911 (via a specialist dealer on consignment, having got sick of timewasters and scammers), to fund a late 60's / early 70's Alfa GTV, so up to my eyes in following / researching classic prices at the moment.

They have gone mental, we can remember tatty E-Types struggling to sell for £900, and muggins here swapped his £800 CB750 sandcast for a £750 Norton in the 70's, but assuming £25k or so for a sandcast now, its going to take more than 'a few years' for a tenfold increase.

(puts on accountants hat)

However much we may loathe it (unless you have a cellar full of them), 'blue chip' classics do compete for serious investment money, especially when interest rates tank, and are sadly often bought by people with no real interest in them other than somewhere to park their filthy lucre. Motor vehicles are almost unique as an investment in that they are free of Capital Gains Tax if they do make money. Most classic bikes will appreciate, because people want them and they aren't making any more, but the 'blue chip' list is relatively short, Hondas' include sandcasts, NR's, CR750's probably Black Bombers too, and obviously any factory racer - they only made a handful, and HRC were buggers for crushing them at the season's end. The less of anything there are, and the more people lust after one, the crazier the prices get.

Other than exotica (limited run ones, that sell for telephone numbers) 911's did double over the last few years, but mine hit peak value over two years ago and hasn't shifted at all since, the 'expert' who values it for insurance has told me not to bother the last two renewals, even though its an easy £35 for writing a letter.

I can't see where another tenfold is going to come from for anything, unless we get mental inflation.
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Re: £250,000
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2018, 04:59:08 PM »

In the middle of selling my Classic 911 (via a specialist dealer on consignment, having got sick of timewasters and scammers), to fund a late 60's / early 70's Alfa GTV, so up to my eyes in following / researching classic prices at the moment.



MrDavo,

all I can sy don´t do that.

We have our 84 carrera 3.2 since almost 20 years (it became part of the family) and some old car came and went since then.

One of them was a 2000 GTV.

A nice car with good looks but at the end of the day ist a cheap manfactured car.
My wife refused to drive with it.
A lot of money went into this car but it still was a clunker.

Compared to that an old 911 is as solid as a tank. With good brakes, roadability and still good performance.

I´ go for a 2002ti if you realy want to have a change.





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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2018, 06:45:34 PM »
I had a 2000 GTV back in the 80’s and literally watched it drop apart (and rust) around me. Interior trim bits had a mind of their own and used to drop off at random.

I grass tracked a 2002ti before they were worth money too 😕
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2018, 07:21:44 PM »
Sorry the thread has got hijacked, its not meant to be about me.

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I had a 2000 GTV back in the 80’s and literally watched it drop apart (and rust) around me

Probably why they are getting scarcer :) No rational reason for wanting one other than that beautiful Bertone body shape and the twin cam engine (chain driven, not belt).

Not too many rotboxes are left around now, most have gone to the great scrapyard in the sky. Those that survive have mostly been rebuilt, I'll prefer one from a specialist (with a reputation to keep) with receipts for a rebuild, they do exist, but aren't cheap. Old 911's hide rust very well too, I have a telescopic rod with a magnet in the end which gets poked everywhere. I know how to walk if not 100% happy, I looked at plenty.

I will be doing due diligence, don't worry, I'd preferably go for a 1750 or 2000 GTV that has come from a salt free environment such as South Africa, Japan or Singapore, RHD markets where they were exported in CKD form for tax reasons.

Here's a hot rodded one from Japan https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C954320 Google tells me its been to a couple of auctions and not sold

A Singapore one, but down in Cornwall  ::) https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C983653

There's another 1750 from Bahrain that has obviously never seen rain, but has new paint and interior, no doubt because of the sun.

And a 2000 which I looked at at the NEC show, its had a whole boatload spent on a full rebuild, but not used for a long time since, which can create its own issues https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1055943

I might get something else, but whatever happens the 911 is going, sadly as its got worth more I've got too precious about where I'll leave it,  especially around these parts, an Alfa is a bit more anonymous in comparison.
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Re: £250,000
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2018, 07:46:56 PM »
Sorry the thread has got hijacked, its not meant to be about me.

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I had a 2000 GTV back in the 80’s and literally watched it drop apart (and rust) around me

Probably why they are getting scarcer :) No rational reason for wanting one other than that beautiful Bertone body shape and the twin cam engine (chain driven, not belt).

Not too many rotboxes are left around now, most have gone to the great scrapyard in the sky. Those that survive have mostly been rebuilt, I'll prefer one from a specialist (with a reputation to keep) with receipts for a rebuild, they do exist, but aren't cheap. Old 911's hide rust very well too, I have a telescopic rod with a magnet in the end which gets poked everywhere. I know how to walk if not 100% happy, I looked at plenty.

I will be doing due diligence, don't worry, I'd preferably go for a 1750 or 2000 GTV that has come from a salt free environment such as South Africa, Japan or Singapore, RHD markets where they were exported in CKD form for tax reasons.

Here's a hot rodded one from Japan https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C954320 Google tells me its been to a couple of auctions and not sold

A Singapore one, but down in Cornwall  ::) https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C983653

There's another 1750 from Bahrain that has obviously never seen rain, but has new paint and interior, no doubt because of the sun.

And a 2000 which I looked at at the NEC show, its had a whole boatload spent on a full rebuild, but not used for a long time since, which can create its own issues https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1055943

I might get something else, but whatever happens the 911 is going, sadly as its got worth more I've got too precious about where I'll leave it,  especially around these parts, an Alfa is a bit more anonymous in comparison.

I feel exactly the same way when i go for a ride on my K1, i won't leave it anywhere out of sight, back in the 70's when i had a new K2 i would leave it out of sight without a thought, then it was only worth £800, now though the K1's value is around £8000 i would be gutted if it were stolen, not because of it's value but because of the attachment i have for it.
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Re: £250,000
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2018, 08:02:30 PM »
Sorry the thread has got hijacked, its not meant to be about me.

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I had a 2000 GTV back in the 80’s and literally watched it drop apart (and rust) around me

Probably why they are getting scarcer :) No rational reason for wanting one other than that beautiful Bertone body shape and the twin cam engine (chain driven, not belt).

Not too many rotboxes are left around now, most have gone to the great scrapyard in the sky. Those that survive have mostly been rebuilt, I'll prefer one from a specialist (with a reputation to keep) with receipts for a rebuild, they do exist, but aren't cheap. Old 911's hide rust very well too, I have a telescopic rod with a magnet in the end which gets poked everywhere. I know how to walk if not 100% happy, I looked at plenty.

I will be doing due diligence, don't worry, I'd preferably go for a 1750 or 2000 GTV that has come from a salt free environment such as South Africa, Japan or Singapore, RHD markets where they were exported in CKD form for tax reasons.

Here's a hot rodded one from Japan https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C954320 Google tells me its been to a couple of auctions and not sold

A Singapore one, but down in Cornwall  ::) https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C983653

There's another 1750 from Bahrain that has obviously never seen rain, but has new paint and interior, no doubt because of the sun.

And a 2000 which I looked at at the NEC show, its had a whole boatload spent on a full rebuild, but not used for a long time since, which can create its own issues https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1055943

I might get something else, but whatever happens the 911 is going, sadly as its got worth more I've got too precious about where I'll leave it,  especially around these parts, an Alfa is a bit more anonymous in comparison.

Well good luck and whichever one you get don’t let it see a UK winter 😀
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2018, 07:04:04 AM »
I think a lot of Waxoyling would be in order,  or even professional anti rust treatment would be money well spent.

Something I didn’t mention is that to fit in my garage with three bikes it can’t be a car any bigger than the 911, which rules out so much.

I retire in a couple of years, well probably semi retire, fit that first dark green Alfa with a set of racing roundles and I’ll be the coolest pensioner on the block :)
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2018, 10:18:44 AM »
If so I´d go for a 1750.

Much more nicer interior, nicer front and better engine.

The 2lt engine refuses to rev.
Claimed to have 130hp, but more realistical is 110-120.

Mine was completely rebuilt and slightly tuned but still disapointing.
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