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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #270 on: March 04, 2021, 03:55:25 PM »
If you paid by PayPal or a credit card, you can involve them, as credit card companies and PayPal will pursue errant traders for you, worth a try and will cost you nothing,

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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #271 on: March 04, 2021, 04:54:51 PM »
Strictly speaking DK have done nothing wrong. You have the same consumer rights buying used and new. You could have exchanged the crank or sent it back for a refund. DK offered to replace the crank rods and that was declined. They are under no obligation to do a partial refund. Could they have handled it better? Probably. Do they have to? No.

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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #272 on: March 04, 2021, 05:37:41 PM »
Must admit I have never had a refund from them but they have always been quick of sending decent replacements and dealt with it amazingly quickly.
I would just take them on up their offer of replacement rods and insist they ship you rods with decent little ends. Then just sell the rods on.  £60 was a pretty low price for crank & rods IMHO from a dealer/breaker.
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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #273 on: March 04, 2021, 05:43:33 PM »
Strictly speaking DK have done nothing wrong. You have the same consumer rights buying used and new. You could have exchanged the crank or sent it back for a refund. DK offered to replace the crank rods and that was declined. They are under no obligation to do a partial refund. Could they have handled it better? Probably. Do they have to? No.

I'd see it the same. They supplied 40 year old component with potential to have something wrong,  when notified they offered to replace the affected parts to make sure it met the description.  Ok, a bit of a pain that the rod was damaged, but they fully intend to place the customer into the position they were when starting the transaction.  That's difficult to argue with from a legal perspective. 

I've also been on the other side of the transaction in responding to customer complaints. A notable one of which had the customer take us to court after some extreme efforts of the company to resolve the problem.  It was found that the customer although technically right, had not taken all of the offers made to them but still proceeded in legal pursuit to demonstrate to the "company" that they are not to be messed with.  Questioned about the price the customer had paid, it amounted to something like £11.60 which they where awarded. Costs for each side were their own  :o which was quite a sobering experience for them.
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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #274 on: March 04, 2021, 06:00:57 PM »
Why don't you get a replacement and re-sell on ebay to cut your losses? (Its unlikely that the second lot will be duff too). When I built my CR750 Rep, I built it from scratch starting with a frame from DK, the first frame they sent had crushed downtubes (from Windjammer fairing brackets) - DK sent a replacement and didn't want the original frame back. Maybe they won't want your duff parts back which will save you the postage.
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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #275 on: March 04, 2021, 06:55:50 PM »
Interesting to see the different perspectives. I'm not all that bothered, if it wasn't for companies like DK it would make it very difficult to keep these bikes alive.
We're only talking about a small amount of money here and as mentioned I thought the price for the crank and rods was quite reasonable. I don't think I'll take it any further, I have what I need and I can't be bothered with getting the extra rods and selling them.

In terms of progress, I've just masked up the head and brought it into the house to warm up in prep for painting and plan to do that and assemble it this weekend.

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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #276 on: March 05, 2021, 11:48:57 AM »
Question about curing paint.

Will the head be ok in the oven to cure the paint? I don't want the valve guides to fall out or the valve guide seals damaged.

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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #277 on: March 05, 2021, 02:17:05 PM »
Valve guides will not fall out but, no good with stem seals on or valves or springs in the head  ;)

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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #278 on: March 05, 2021, 02:22:49 PM »
Thanks Graham. Valves are not in the head, just the guides. Just wanted to check and make sure.

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Came out nice.

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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #279 on: March 06, 2021, 11:55:05 AM »
Going to post as I go today in case anyone is able to stop me doing anything wrong before I go to far.

Valves in

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Head gasket and seals on.

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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #280 on: March 06, 2021, 12:14:27 PM »
Haha very good.

Good tip. Just checked and no leaks.

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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #281 on: March 06, 2021, 01:07:17 PM »
Found out the hard way that you can't put the tensioner in with the head on whilst the engine is in the frame. I hadn't torqued it down though so all good.

Am I good to go ahead and torque it down before trying to fit the cam?

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I have a 650 cam for this which I had machined at Newman's cams.
Obviously I'm using the original gear.

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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #282 on: March 06, 2021, 01:19:41 PM »
Fine to torque first.
You doknow the tacho will read wrong with 650 cam?

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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #283 on: March 06, 2021, 01:22:43 PM »
Good good, thanks Bryan. YeahI'm not using the tach, I've got digital gauges. Plus I've deleted the Speedo drive and fitted twin discs.

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Re: 1976 CB550F1 (what have I let myself in for) Project
« Reply #284 on: March 06, 2021, 01:51:47 PM »
This correct?

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