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Re: 1st One of these I've ever seen!
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2018, 06:43:32 AM »
I’m sure someone will be able to fill us in on what a Rob North Honda was (is?) and why a project bike would be worth £15k.

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Re: 1st One of these I've ever seen!
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2018, 07:10:40 AM »
J soper used to race for hadleigh custom for a bit...I suppose you could ask him I'm sure he has a bike shop down south ...."soper motorcycles" at least he did have 5-6 years ago

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Re: 1st One of these I've ever seen!
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2018, 08:30:33 AM »
Rob North (still making frames I think in California)  made the race frames for BSA & Triumph triples.  John Cooper era etc.

Think the rider was Julian sponsored by Hadleigh custom.

One of the best looking frames ever made,  I feel. Could be interesting if its a "real" frame from that maker.

Seen one with Honda motor installed as road bike in American mag years ago.

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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2018, 09:35:48 AM »
Am I reading it wrong? the description says its a replica of a one off bike.

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North 750 Honda ideal parade or classic track days bikers classic etc a replica of only 1 ever built and raced by j soper

So not actually the Soper bike?

And you can buy a brand new Rob North rolling chassis for £7500 Click
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Re: 1st One of these I've ever seen!
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2018, 09:56:09 AM »
Now on a PC rather than a phone...

It seems my old mate Axl (RIP) has written about it: Click
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2018, 09:57:05 AM »
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Re: 1st One of these I've ever seen!
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2018, 10:29:15 AM »
Always baffles me that when someone is asking 15k for something why they don't write a detailed description of the item not just a one liner

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Re: 1st One of these I've ever seen!
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2018, 12:25:59 PM »
Even the genuine Soper bike didn't sell at £8000 :-\

https://online.handh.co.uk/m/lot-details/index/catalog/70/lot/1868/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kQ2hYA9seg
Often wondered why nobody re-framed the cb750 in the 70's (for racing) - surely they would have been faster than the Nortons and Triumph Triples of the time.
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Re: 1st One of these I've ever seen!
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2018, 01:22:46 PM »
I’m sure someone will be able to fill us in on what a Rob North Honda was (is?) and why a project bike would be worth £15k.


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Re: 1st One of these I've ever seen!
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2018, 03:22:48 PM »
Even the genuine Soper bike didn't sell at £8000 :-\

https://online.handh.co.uk/m/lot-details/index/catalog/70/lot/1868/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kQ2hYA9seg
Often wondered why nobody re-framed the cb750 in the 70's (for racing) - surely they would have been faster than the Nortons and Triumph Triples of the time.

The thing is that in the 70's Norton and Triumph didn't have a two-stroke and back then 2-strokes ruled. Norton and Triumph were already on a very slippery stroke (or Sam)
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Re: 1st One of these I've ever seen!
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2018, 03:34:07 PM »
Absolutely - but in the early 70's when I was watching the transatlantic trophy, pushrod triples in Rob North frames were winning most races - surely an SOHC Four in a decent frame would have been better than the pushrod engines (as per the speed of the cr750 at Daytona in 1970) - albeit the 2 strokes were on the rise in the next few years

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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2018, 03:49:11 PM »
Cost (and availability possibly). The Brits were already developed and Norton-Villiers thought sponsorship was a badge on a local building site concrete mixer.
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Re: 1st One of these I've ever seen!
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2018, 04:01:17 PM »
Cost (and availability possibly). The Brits were already developed and Norton-Villiers thought sponsorship was a badge on a local building site concrete mixer.

JPS Nortons?
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2018, 05:02:15 PM »
Cost (and availability possibly). The Brits were already developed and Norton-Villiers thought sponsorship was a badge on a local building site concrete mixer.

JPS Nortons?

Brian Crighton changed the game there for a bit with some very good riders but they were outlawed pretty quick.

And the JPS 750's before that. Cost and lack of money on a very old design
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