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Offline Allington

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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2018, 10:34:20 AM »
I remember the press reporting on a much better version which couldn’t have helped sales
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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2018, 11:32:52 AM »
I was REALLY sold on the CB1100 when it was first advertised. Air cooled, basic old fashioned looks, clean...OK the tank shape wasn't perfect....but it had everything I wanted.

It also had something I did NOT want ..... a limiter.

It was limited to 115mph in top ( not a huge issue really ) but it was limited by stopping the motor revving out in every gear. It took was a relatively plodding 85hp chunky lump, and destroyed the real world performance too.

Sure...you can mod it to get rid of that, but insurance companies get SO riled up over mods, and doubly so when they up performance...but if I was doing that...I would look to swap the tank for a CB900F unit, along with the seat and panels.....and do a Spencer rep job. But...for me...it's such a stressful job just ringing up insurance companies for quotes on a standard Hornet 900 in London...with no garage...that I don't dare start talking about serious mods.

But all that aside....the 'sort of gold' doesn't suit it for me. I'd want the candy red. My Hornet is candy glory red...and I absolutely love the colour. My F2 will be that colour when I get to paint...not original...but with a black motor, a few shiny bits, and deep wine red candy paint.
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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2018, 06:01:35 PM »
I was REALLY sold on the CB1100 when it was first advertised. Air cooled, basic old fashioned looks, clean...OK the tank shape wasn't perfect....but it had everything I wanted.

It also had something I did NOT want ..... a limiter.

It was limited to 115mph in top ( not a huge issue really ) but it was limited by stopping the motor revving out in every gear. It took was a relatively plodding 85hp chunky lump, and destroyed the real world performance too.

Sure...you can mod it to get rid of that, but insurance companies get SO riled up over mods, and doubly so when they up performance...but if I was doing that...I would look to swap the tank for a CB900F unit, along with the seat and panels.....and do a Spencer rep job. But...for me...it's such a stressful job just ringing up insurance companies for quotes on a standard Hornet 900 in London...with no garage...that I don't dare start talking about serious mods.

But all that aside....the 'sort of gold' doesn't suit it for me. I'd want the candy red. My Hornet is candy glory red...and I absolutely love the colour. My F2 will be that colour when I get to paint...not original...but with a black motor, a few shiny bits, and deep wine red candy paint.
Sounds like you really should have bought an 80's CB1100F (import) - would meet all your stated requirements! (I had a CB1100R and it was a quick bike even by todays standards)
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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2018, 07:30:53 PM »
My 2 pennyworth - I used a new CB1300 to commute into London in 2004. It was a brilliant bike.......tons of power, sooooo reliable a good handler and really comfortable - even as a commuter. After 2 years I looked at a BMW Boxer.....not for me......too tall, and that shaft drive was 'unusual' as it seemed to kick the rear end out under hard acceleration.....then I visited a Triumph Dealer and tried a Speed Triple......not for me....too dinky and lots of fiddly little bits sticking out and just waiting to be broken (been there and done that with a grands worth of damage to a Kwacker ZXR 1200 that I left the disc lock on when I started off) so on the way home I called into Dobles in Croydon and got another new CB1300S........they gave me a great part ex price (I think they could have sold my old bike 10 times over as it was immaculate and had a full Honda Service Record).

I used that 2006 bike to commute for another year until I moved too far away to ride every day, and started to use the Train (bad mistake on my part).

I have looked at the CB1100, but TBH it looks like a poor relation to the CB1300 and I much prefer liquid cooled motors to air cooled motors........and it is a LOT of money compared to buying a good used CB1300.

Would I buy a CB1100 or a CB1300 ? A CB1300 would be my choice every time - I'll check under the Christmas Tree on 25 December ! LOL.
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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2018, 08:07:53 PM »
@Philward ...I did look. Prices were rather high, and still are when they turn up. Which isn't often. Maybe one day.....

I still reckon, for a daily commuter in London, the 900 Hornet is hard to beat. Suits me nicely. I sat on CB1300...and got as far as a test ride. But it was just too heavy, and the Hornet was so much easier to hustle around town.
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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2018, 09:43:17 PM »
I made this a few years ago - 1100F frame, Laverda forks, CBR600 wheels/brakes and CB900F engine with Wiseco 1000 big bore kit. (bought it half built as part of 3 900's job lot) pulled like a train - sold it to fund K2 rebuild
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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2018, 11:58:11 PM »
Very tasty looking beast .....
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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2018, 11:01:32 AM »
Lovely bike Phil. Laverda forks, class👍.
I tried a CB1300S in 2007, lovely bike but the Honda dealer wouldn't give any sort of discount, not even a £10 tank protector! I bought a new Triumph ST1050 instead!

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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2018, 09:35:01 PM »
Wasn’t the 1300 available in Japan (or at shows) a long time before it was released here?

Sorry not been online much recently, Honda introduced a CB1300 in 1998-2003, it was the SC40 version and had carbs, air cooled and TBH looked very much like the later version. There are some in the UK but not that many, probably european imports as I don't think it was sold in the UK. In 2003 they brought out the SC54 version, fuel injected, water cooled. In 2005 they put ABS on it and in 2008 they changed it slightly in order to get a euro3 emissions pass. In 2010 it no longer got imported in the UK but is still a good seller in the Japanese domestic market.

I paid 6500 for a brand new CB1300 in 2009, now a CB1100 is over 10000 for what is a much inferior bike, I suppose that's progress.
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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2018, 08:58:50 AM »
When the CB1100 was launched, my brother bought one of the first generation (five speed, single silencer) straight away. Over the course of a year, he became disenchanted with it - no specific problems, but very limited tank range and no weather protection etc. All things that would have been evident before purchase, however my brother tends to buy on impulse and has owned another two bikes since selling the Honda.

My riding friend owned a CB750 (1970, the bike that was restored by John Wyatt and offered as a prize in a competition by one of the magazines in the late 1990's). Eventually, maintenance issues (my friend cannot manage tasks such as chain adjustment, for instance) and the fact that he could only store one bike caused him to part with it after some 15 years. He then bought a second generation CB1100 (new, in red) and kept that for just over two years before deciding that it was too heavy for him and so part - exchanged it for a Kawasaki Z900RS early this year.

Neither my brother nor my friend expected to lose very much money on their CB1100s, however both did. My brother's bike sat at the dealers for almost a year, before being sold on at less than the part - exchange allowance. My friends is still for sale at the local Kawasaki dealer, where he works part - time, almost twelve months after it was put on display.

All in all, a lovely looking bike that seems to appeal to a very limited number of buyers, so if you do buy one be prepared to keep it or lose heavily!

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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2018, 09:08:30 AM »
Someone's dressing them up to make a more classic look. The form is nobbled by that engine being so tall though,  it dominates the whole layout compared to SOHC which is much shorter.

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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2018, 09:45:58 AM »
And comparison to original post

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Photographed in daylight though,  so no potential flash illuminance bias that may have been present in Hunt's example.

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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2018, 03:04:20 PM »
I'm smitten ! for me performance doesn't come into it, 80 odd bhp is plenty,  but i have read somewhere that servicing costs are high, that is not an issue with the K1 with screw adjustable tappets and points, why can't all bikes be that simple ?
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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2018, 09:23:30 PM »
Those painted versions look fantastic.....almost identical to the original CB...just shows how a paintjob makes all the difference  8)

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Re: Does this look like Candy Gold Custom to you?
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2018, 09:26:22 PM »
Wasn’t the 1300 available in Japan (or at shows) a long time before it was released here?

https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/Honda/honda_cb1000fr_big_1%2093.htm