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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #660 on: July 15, 2024, 01:32:30 PM »
The absolute airscrew setting has always been part of adjustment scheme in reality, rather than solid set and forget.

With variation likely on component now in comparison to production line original, then highly likely that set point is going to be different.

Bore of jet, bleed holes, airflow passages, air filter performance, piston ring sealing, fuel burn characteristic, ethanol inclusion (contains oxygen over and above no e types) will all contribute to a setting that may be different to "book" value originally given.

The cleaning  of the jets and air passages are also a scource of variance too.

Establishment of a set for what you've now got in place should effectively accommodate these.

Fuel injection system do exactly this now, with more or less the same methodology as Honda originally published in their manuals, just automatic in itself via ecu programming, built in sensors etc.

Like these carbs though, if the sensible adjustment fails to yeald a competent combustion before reaching the end of logical steps available, then it'll usually throw emissions/check engine code and warning to request further work in establishing what is the real cause of going out of range.


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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #661 on: July 15, 2024, 07:44:55 PM »
Thanks Nigel, that's one hell of a reply.  Carbs are coming off this week if I get a chance so that I can eliminate my bench sync from the equation
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1976 CB550F1 current project
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #662 on: August 04, 2024, 08:13:28 AM »
Is there a way of testing if my standard Keihin pilots (38) are within spec and not worn or over cleaned to a point they are now significantly larger?
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #663 on: August 04, 2024, 10:43:09 AM »
I believe the concensus is that the screw adjustment range will compensate for normal wear.

That said I know one member used one 38 and four 40 jets to avoid a rich running cylinder. The air screws for the 500 are a very different design  to the 550. My 500 was fitted with the 550 brass solid flat ended screw. Courtesy of Ken I have fitted the correct ones that are hollow with side holes.
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Honda CB500 K1 (new pit dug out ready)
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #664 on: August 04, 2024, 03:42:51 PM »
That confirms my thoughts Ted, I suppose it would run richer as the pilots wear meaning screws out further to compensate.
1975 XS650B
1976 CB550F1 current project
2012 Triumph Daytona 675

 

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