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Re: Road Tax- 1978 registered bike-400/4
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2019, 10:20:13 AM »
......it's so they can screw one last year of road tax out of us. ;) Imagine if they tried to celebrate the new millenium on 1st January 2001?
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Re: Road Tax- 1978 registered bike-400/4
« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2019, 10:26:35 AM »
 :o i couldn't possibly comment!

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« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2019, 10:34:22 AM »
I believe the 1st April thing is to do with the Budget.

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« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2019, 12:52:21 PM »
I had a run in with a jobsworth at DVLA,one of my bikes was 1registwred January 1st 1978 but it was on file that it was manufactured on December 1st 1978 obviously a mistake someone had entered wrong date.Jobsworth wouldn’t budge but I sorted it eventually and got it registered last year as a Historic Vehicle,as stated you HAVE to take V5 to post office to get Historic status and you’ll get it After 1st April year it qualifies
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Re: Road Tax- 1978 registered bike-400/4
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2020, 12:41:08 PM »
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but rather than start a new one I thought I'd post my query here.  My CB550 was first registered in March 1979.  I encountered a similar jobsworth to Dave (mebbe the same one!) when I rang the DVLA at that time who said my bike wouldn't qualify for historic status until the beginning of 2020.   

So here we are on New Years day 2020 and I'm wondering what I have to do re the V5?  I looked on the DVLA website and tried to tax my bike for free this morning, but they still wanted £66 off me.  However it did say their records indicated my bike was now over 40 years old and if it hadn't been significantly modified since new I would no longer need to MOT it.

Back in March, jobsworth did tell me that come 2020 if I wrote the word HISTORIC in the Tax class of section 7 of the V5 and send it back to Swansea they would issue me with a new V5 confirming the Historic status, then presumably I could go tot eh Post Office and tax it for free

My question is,  do I just send the V5 to Swansea as jobsworth said or do I take it to a Post office and they will do it for me?   
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Re: Road Tax- 1978 registered bike-400/4
« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2020, 01:03:10 PM »
Photocopy it and do it at a post office DVLA loose too much

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Re: Road Tax- 1978 registered bike-400/4
« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2020, 01:08:38 PM »
Not wishing to put a damper on things when we have just celebrated New Year but having had the same problem with 4 or 5 other bikes which ‘came of age’ over recent years, I believe that ‘jobsworth’ neglected to say that your bike will not qualify for free VED until after April 2020.  Yes, it’s over 40 years old now and technically doesn’t need an MOT.  It’s probably not worth jumping through the dating cert hoops just to save a few quid on VED.  You can try a friendly Post Office but when they scan the V5c it will probably blow it out for Historic anyway.  I wouldn’t send it to DVLA - they have a habit of, er, misplacing stuff.  The Post office will send it for you for free when you eventually  tax it.

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Re: Road Tax- 1978 registered bike-400/4
« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2020, 01:34:34 PM »
Hi- Has anyone had any problems with road tax and the 40-year Rule?
My 400/4 according to my log book was registered 1st in September 1978
However, I recived a V11 today to ask me to pay for road tax.
i called the DVLA and they said becuase their databse states my bike wasnt actually registered until December of 1978...? despite the log book suggesting differently, I have to go to a tax office and get a new log book?

Sound a load of beuracratic b**** to me, but has anyone else had simlar experience?
My cb550 is registered and manufactured  1st January 1978 according to the v5. In may 2018 I tried to get it registered historic and they told me their data base said December 1978 and cos of that it was not 40 year old. Even although the v5 from them said 1st January 1978.  This was an arguement I was not going to win. So I decided to wait until may 2019. Then the process went through smoothly.  I share your pain.

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Re: Road Tax- 1978 registered bike-400/4
« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2020, 02:38:08 PM »
My bike registered 2nd August 1978. I acquired it on 11th November 2019 and went t P.O. on12th. They taxed it (free) there and then and sent off for new V5 registered as historic. No insurance proof needed! Suggest a good Post Office can sort it.

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Re: Road Tax- 1978 registered bike-400/4
« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2020, 03:04:59 PM »
It has to be 40 years old on December 31st of the given year for it to qualify for historic status the following April 1st. For example, if it was registered Sept 79, it qualifies but because it can only be done on or from 1st April, it has to be done in April 2020. Even if it was registered in February 1979, you still have to wait until 1st April 2020 to change it to historic. The only allowance you get is if it was registered within the 1st 7 days of the year, DVLA will allow it to go historic in that April. I have changed about 11 bikes to historic now, done instantly at my little local post office. I cocked up on only 1, I tried to change it a year early 🙄🙄🙄🙄
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Re: Road Tax- 1978 registered bike-400/4
« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2020, 03:53:40 PM »
Insurance is checked on the database automatically even at post office so no paper proof needed

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« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2020, 04:00:15 PM »
Insurance is checked on the database automatically even at post office so no paper proof needed
Yes Bryan, they check for insurance or SORN but it's not checked for quite a few weeks. You can tax it (FOC) without it being insured on that day. One of ours that I changed to historic was not insured as off the road for  a few months and I forgot to SORN it when the insurance expired. 6 weeks after changing it to Historic and being taxed automatically in the process (FOC) I received a very nasty letter from the Motor Industry Bureau threatening me with a £1000 fine. I learnt my lesson then, if its not insured, it has to be SORN and if its not SORN it has to be insured.
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Re: Road Tax- 1978 registered bike-400/4
« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2020, 04:24:39 PM »
So forgive me for being a bit slow on the uptake, but if I understand correctly in my bikes case, I could tax it today, but it would not be free until after 1st April but I don't need to worry about getting it MOT'd anymore?
Now where did I put that 10mm socket?

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« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2020, 04:30:38 PM »
So forgive me for being a bit slow on the uptake, but if I understand correctly in my bikes case, I could tax it today, but it would not be free until after 1st April but I don't need to worry about getting it MOT'd anymore?
If it's not registered as historic, some interpret the regs that that means it still needs an MOT. Other people interpret it that it doesn't need an MOT. I personally see it that the regs imply that as soon as it hits its 40th birthday, it is now MOT exempt. If DVLA and DVSA had communicated when all these changes were being discussed, it would have made life easier. If you do tax it today, you will get a refund of any unused tax when you register it as historic on 1st April.
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Re: Road Tax- 1978 registered bike-400/4
« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2020, 04:38:01 PM »
Thanks Julie, Being a tight Yorkshire git,  I'll probably leave it until April before I bother taxing it. 

I doubt I'd have ridden it much between now and then anyway unless we have a heatwave in March.  Its insured and currently SORNed.  I still haven't got around to riding the Triumph Thruxton I bought last month due to the crap weather and shit on the roads.
Now where did I put that 10mm socket?

 

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