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Re: MOT Exempt - 'Substantially Modified'
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2019, 11:18:00 PM »
OK, so have you informed DVLA that it has been substantially modified?
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Re: MOT Exempt - 'Substantially Modified'
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2019, 11:24:19 PM »
OK, so have you informed DVLA that it has been substantially modified?

No this is the bikes 3rd incarnation as a chop, so I have no idea what the previous owners have done.  ???
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Re: MOT Exempt - 'Substantially Modified'
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2019, 11:28:59 PM »
OK...so as the current owner its your responsibility, legally, to inform DVLA of the changes. When you do that, I'm sure they will say its been substantially modified and therefore not MOT exempt. Don't forget that if you don't inform DVLA, your insurance may possibly be invalid.
Edit.....it's no agro getting an MOT anyway, its got to be road worthy and safe at all times, so the need to have an annual MOT should be of no issue at all.
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Re: MOT Exempt - 'Substantially Modified'
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2019, 11:52:25 PM »
Unless you can prove it was all done over 30 years ago, I would say yours has been substantially modified and looks like it should be on a Q plate therefore needs yearly MOT's still. I would like to be proved wrong though.

It is registered as a 1976 so no Q plate.

What is it registered as. As in make. If it's a one off chop with no certificate of conformity it should have had a  single vehicle inspection and be on a Q plate surely.
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Re: MOT Exempt - 'Substantially Modified'
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2019, 08:37:30 AM »
I have started something here haven't I! Interesting and relevant though. I intend to get an MOT, it's just the online declaration that intrigued me.
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Re: MOT Exempt - 'Substantially Modified'
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2019, 08:48:13 AM »
As an ex tester and a kitcar builder it depends what the log book(v5) sez and date of registration on it.
If it sez Honda with the frame number that is stamped on the frame(as long as that IS NOT the original Honda number) DVLA  have previously accepted the frame swap to be "standard" and whilst i am not 100% certain on this one very few laws to do with motoring are retro active, in fact the only one i can think of is screen washers!

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Re: MOT Exempt - 'Substantially Modified'
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2019, 09:09:24 AM »
Depends on what was done by previous owners and when. As the rules have changed repeatedly and dvla dont even consistently apply them if the frame number, and reg plate agree with the log book and it's been a chop for a long time I would let sleeping dogs lie. You do need to inform insurance of the modified status, once that is signed off on, I geuss it's worth asking do they want you to MOT it? I would take the line on the fact it's a chopper as that it has been that for a long time before proof of chopped status and date were needed and it's down to dvla to prove it was done more recently. Same as them outlawing building home built trailers - stupid bit of legislation that is meaningless as it's totally un provable and there are millions of home built trailers kicking around with no form of identity so someone can build more and unless they share details of the build online or something then a new trailer being illegal and an old one not is a moot point.
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Re: MOT Exempt - 'Substantially Modified'
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2019, 09:31:40 AM »
The trouble is these days more and more laws are been turned on their heads were you have to provide the proof and not them.

 

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