rear sprocket

[rosco]

Just fitting a new rear  sprocket and it seems a lot of play Not much rotational just a little bit of movement within the bolt holes of the sprocket The bushings seem ok But lateral play there is at least 1/8" old money Is this the norm     Also the rear spindle The PO has put it with the nut on the sprocket side Looking in the parts catalogue thats right   Yet in the service manual shows nut on brake side which i believe to be correct Your thoughts appreciated Cheers Ross

[Nurse Julie]

Nut on brake side because to remove the rear wheel, you would have to remove exhaust to get the spindle out if it was on 'tother side. I have a little lateral play on my rear sprocket as well (Thinner pattern part). Both wheel spacers are different sizes, make sure you get the correct one on the correct side. The longer of the 2 goes on the brake side.

[Moorey]

If you look in the Honda manual it shows the nut on the sprocket side . If the swing arm has open fork ends then it makes no difference which way the spindle is in as it doesn't have to be removed to take the rear wheel out.

[Nurse Julie]

Bloody weird....I have just looked at my CB400/4 (standard closed end swing arm) and my nut is on the sprocket side but, I can still get my spindle out as I have a standard exhaust system fitted and there is enough clearance over the silencer to pull the spindle out with the exhaust still fitted. My shocks are also standard length, anything shorter than standard, I don't think there would be enough clearance to pull the spindle through.

[Nurse Julie]

I'm just wondering if the shop manual, being combined general 350/400, (but with the 400 supplement at the back) shows the 350 set up which has the 4 into 4 exhaust 🤔. Does the 350 have an open end swing arm? Also just noticed that if I put my 400 on the center stand, then I can't get the spindle out as not enough clearance over the silencer 😪

[Moorey]

Bloody weird....I have just looked at my CB400/4 (standard closed end swing arm) and my nut is on the sprocket side but, I can still get my spindle out as I have a standard exhaust system fitted and there is enough clearance over the silencer to pull the spindle out with the exhaust still fitted. My shocks are also standard length, anything shorter than standard, I don't think there would be enough clearance to pull the spindle through.

The parts list shows the early swing arm with open ends with the footrest brackets on I can't find later ones I guess they must have gone to closed ends then. Makes sense though to put the nut at the brake side as it keeps all the chain crap off it if you ever need to remove the wheel at the side of the road.
My 350 has open ends but then it's a very early  350

[Nurse Julie]

Scrap that..my 400 does have an open end swing arm 🙄🙄🙄🙄 So, it doesn't matter which way the spindle goes in. (I was looking at the wrong bike 🤣🤣🤣🤣)

[rosco]

So to conclude   It won't matter which way the spindle fits if you have open-ended swing arm  But if closed end Nut on brake side so spindle drawn out nearside. Think i will fit nut to brake side although i have open-ended arm

[Moorey]

Scrap that..my 400 does have an open end swing arm 🙄🙄🙄🙄 So, it doesn't matter which way the spindle goes in. (I was looking at the wrong bike 🤣🤣🤣🤣)

Shud av gone to spec savers.

[Nurse Julie]

I don't think you will get the nut on the brake side. If you look at the pics, the spindle sticks out a lot more on the nut end than the other end. If you turn the spindle round, the silencer will foul the end of the spindle and you won't be able to get the nut on if you have a standard exhaust system fitted.

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[hairygit]

Scrap that..my 400 does have an open end swing arm So, it doesn't matter which way the spindle goes in. (I was looking at the wrong bike 🤣🤣🤣🤣)

Shud av gone to spec savers.

Not so sure that's a good idea!

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[TrickyMicky]

For what it's worth, I have 400 with fixed rear footrests, closed ends swinging arm. Nut is on RH (brake) side, when assembling, push spindle through from sprocket side and when enough thread is showing start turning nut and use this to pull rest of spindle through. On the spindle I am using at the sprocket end it has a hole whereby you can use a small tommy bar/screwdriver to hold the spindle while you tighten the nut, would not be able to use this if it was at brake end. Little bit of care needed when inserting split pin into castrated wheel nut. Sorry Julie, but speaking as one who made an absolute pig's breakfast once of trying to fit shox that were too long, that's when everything fouls up. Always carefully measure between fixing centres of shox before trying to fit, can't give proper measurement at moment, as it's absolutely precipitating down outside, and the pizza and beer are ready. Regards, Michael.

[Nurse Julie]

Scrap that..my 400 does have an open end swing arm So, it doesn't matter which way the spindle goes in. (I was looking at the wrong bike 🤣🤣🤣🤣)

Shud av gone to spec savers.

Not so sure that's a good idea!

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[Nurse Julie]

For what it's worth, I have 400 with fixed rear footrests, closed ends swinging arm. Nut is on RH (brake) side, when assembling, push spindle through from sprocket side and when enough thread is showing start turning nut and use this to pull rest of spindle through. On the spindle I am using at the sprocket end it has a hole whereby you can use a small tommy bar/screwdriver to hold the spindle while you tighten the nut, would not be able to use this if it was at brake end. Little bit of care needed when inserting split pin into castrated wheel nut. Sorry Julie, but speaking as one who made an absolute pig's breakfast once of trying to fit shox that were too long, that's when everything fouls up. Always carefully measure between fixing centres of shox before trying to fit, can't give proper measurement at moment, as it's absolutely precipitating down outside, and the pizza and beer are ready. Regards, Michael.

Agree Michael. My shocks are spot on the original length so everything is sitting where it should be as far as levels and clearances are concerned. But, although I can see its very easy to insert spindle from the nearside, making the nut on the off side by the brake, I cant see how this is possible with the silencer in the way, if a standard exhaust system is fitted, there us just not enough clearance available 🤔🤔🤔

[rosco]

Just found in Haynes manual page 97 section 7-1 It states Pull out the spindle with the drive side adjuster and spacer As Trickymicky states would make it difficult fitting a tommy bar to assist removal