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Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« on: September 04, 2019, 04:38:12 PM »
Last week I finally got round to sending my wheel hubs off to Hagon to be built with Excel rims and SS spokes.
I left the rear hub assembly whole and asked them to take the bearings out and polish the hubs for me. I just had a call from them to say that they have made a bearing retainer tool, had the hub clamped to a milling machine, applied heat etc etc but cannot get the thing undone.
They have advised me to find a new hub...
I could ask them to send it back to me and try myself but if they can't do it when it's clamped in a milling machine then I am unlikely to be able to do it with just my bench vice.

Anyone got any pearls of wisdom?

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2019, 04:57:35 PM »
Do you know if they have drilled out the punch marks. If not they are extremely difficult to remove and will destroy the threads.

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2019, 04:57:45 PM »
It's a left hand thread, just in case they are trying the wrong way.
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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2019, 04:58:38 PM »
Do you know if they have drilled out the punch marks. If not they are extremely difficult to remove and will destroy the threads.

He didn't say, so maybe not. I'll call them and find out.

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2019, 04:59:31 PM »
It's a left hand thread, just in case they are trying the wrong way.

Thanks Julie, He said they happened to have another hub they were doing for another customer and checked they were doing it the right way.

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2019, 05:01:05 PM »
It should come out then, if as Moorey has said they have drilled the punch marks out.
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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2019, 05:05:41 PM »
They do not need to drill all the way through but just remove the bit of distorted thread caused by the punch.

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2019, 05:12:10 PM »
Thanks for the help. They aren't answering the phone now so I've sent them an email. Hopefully that's all it is!
I'll report back when I hear more.

For anyone looking a this post in the future, I just found this very clear and useful page. http://blacksquaremotorcycle.com/how-to-drill-out-stakes/
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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2019, 10:10:02 PM »
I couldn’t get mine out. I ended up drilling it and splitting it. The replacement one screwed back in without any issues.
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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2019, 11:41:06 PM »
I couldn’t get mine out. I ended up drilling it and splitting it. The replacement one screwed back in without any issues.
That's what I had to do on the last one I did

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2019, 09:21:30 AM »
They are a total sod to remove .. I had to make these up to get mine out. I made the big mistake of stripping the wheel rim before removing the retainer so I had to make a hub holding tool by welding the old sprocket to a piece of angle iron.. I am not 100% sure but mine may have been Loctited too, in addition to staking, by a PO as the bearing wasn't the original one.

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2019, 10:05:10 AM »
I've just spoken to them again. They had drilled out the stakes, apparently the guys in the engineering shop spent a couple of hours trying to get it out.
They said they would try again and I said if they could drill it out then do that. There's a NOS retainer on ebay at the moment for 50 (seems steep but cheaper than a new hub)

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2019, 10:19:19 AM »
Personally I find it far easier to fasten the removing tool in the vice and put the wheel on top and then use the wheel to undo the retainers and  never had a problem doing it that way.

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2019, 10:31:10 AM »
Personally I find it far easier to fasten the removing tool in the vice and put the wheel on top and then use the wheel to undo the retainers and  never had a problem doing it that way.

Unfortunately I had already removed the spokes and hub

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2019, 10:52:43 AM »
Here's the tool I made.

 

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