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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2019, 07:04:30 PM »
No as they are cast in but somewhere on the site is an address for a man in Huddersfield who will machine out the old one and shrink a new piece of cast in and machine that to size.

Oh man it's never easy is it.

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2019, 07:08:09 PM »
Graham (Trigger) machines them out and fits new liners to them. Sold quite a few fully re furbed ones on Ebay recently but all sold now.
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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2019, 07:45:23 PM »
Anyone with a medium sized lathe could machine the old retainer out. Re lining a drum is not too much harder, I did mine a fair few years ago, hardest bit was smuggling the new cast iron liner into and out of the freezer without a telling off from my Mrs, second hardest job was heating a hub up with bearings still in without damaging them as I couldn't get that retainer to move, even with a 1" bar welded to the retainer and the sprocket  clamped in a leg vise allowing me to use sledgehammers. Worth it though, as has been said these hubs can be hard to get. The kind of job that let's a lathe pay for itself in short order. You could easily cut the retainer out with a drill or even a dremel and patience.
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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2019, 08:19:33 PM »
Anyone with a medium sized lathe could machine the old retainer out. Re lining a drum is not too much harder, I did mine a fair few years ago, hardest bit was smuggling the new cast iron liner into and out of the freezer without a telling off from my Mrs, second hardest job was heating a hub up with bearings still in without damaging them as I couldn't get that retainer to move, even with a 1" bar welded to the retainer and the sprocket  clamped in a leg vise allowing me to use sledgehammers. Worth it though, as has been said these hubs can be hard to get. The kind of job that let's a lathe pay for itself in short order. You could easily cut the retainer out with a drill or even a dremel and patience.

Thanks Matthew, Maybe my best bet is to ask hagon to send me the hub back and try to cut it out myself. I don't want to ask them to spend lots of time on it because for these guys time is money.. I wish I had realised all this before cutting the spokes from the wheel. 

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2019, 04:40:15 PM »
This has just popped up on ebay.

Can anyone with a keener eye than me tell me if there's anything wrong with it?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB550-CB-550-K-F-genuine-rear-wheel-DID-1-85x18/352792064402?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2763.l2648

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2019, 05:14:28 PM »
As you have nothing to lose and if not in a hurry. If you want to get them to send your old hub directly to me I will try to sort it out one way or another. Let me know and I will PM my address.  Obviously I can make no promises but will keep you informed.

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2019, 05:20:28 PM »
As you have nothing to lose and if not in a hurry. If you want to get them to send your old hub directly to me I will try to sort it out one way or another. Let me know and I will PM my address.  Obviously I can make no promises but will keep you informed.

That's very kind of you Moorey, I'll send you a PM.

I have no idea what state it's in now after they've gone at it for hours though, they said they tried lots of heat and welding something too it.. Maybe I'll ask them to send me a picture of it first...

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2019, 09:42:22 PM »
Well the ebay seller says its a front wheel and the K3 was a different hub and brake plate so its a risk

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2019, 09:08:17 PM »
Must be fairly stuck we shall see how we go on next week.

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2019, 10:28:40 PM »
According to CSMNL these have the same hub.
fits models
CB500 JAPAN

CB500K0 FOUR 1971 USA

CB500K0 FOUR AUSTRALIA

CB500K0 FOUR ENGLAND

CB500K0 FOUR EUROPEAN DIRECT SALES

CB500K0 FOUR FRANCE

CB500K0 FOUR GENERAL EXPORT

CB500K0 FOUR GERMANY

CB500K0 FOUR NETHERLANDS

CB500K1 FOUR 1972 USA

CB500K1 FOUR ENGLAND

CB500K1 FOUR EUROPEAN DIRECT SALES

CB500K1 FOUR FRANCE

CB500K1 FOUR GENERAL EXPORT

CB500K1 FOUR GERMANY

CB500K1 JAPAN

CB500K2 FOUR 1973 USA

CB500K2 GENERAL EXPORT

CB500P JAPAN

CB550 FOUR 1975 CB550K0 USA

CB550 K1 FOUR 1975 USA

CB550 K2 FOUR 1976 USA

CB550F SUPER SPORT 550 FOUR 1975 CB550FK0 USA

CB550F SUPER SPORT 550 FOUR 1976 USA

CB550F1 SUPER SPORT 550 FOUR 1976 AUSTRALIA

CB550F1 SUPER SPORT 550 FOUR 1976 CANADA

CB550F1 SUPER SPORT 550 FOUR 1976 ENGLAND

CB550F1 SUPER SPORT 550 FOUR 1976 EUROPEAN DIRECT SALES

CB550F1 SUPER SPORT 550 FOUR 1976 FRANCE

CB550F1 SUPER SPORT 550 FOUR 1976 GENERAL EXPORT KPH

CB550F1 SUPER SPORT 550 FOUR 1976 GENERAL EXPORT MPH

CB550F1 SUPER SPORT 550 FOUR 1976 GERMANY

CB550F2 SUPER SPORT 550 FOUR 1977 EUROPEAN DIRECT SALES

CB550F2 SUPER SPORT 550 FOUR 1977 FRANCE

CB550F2 SUPER SPORT 550 FOUR 1977 GERMANY


Just had a look at this list and it is wrong. The 550 are different to the  500. It is down to what brake plate is fitted .

The  500 hub is on the right

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2019, 10:31:48 PM »
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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2019, 10:36:09 PM »
Just shows how much you can trust the lists from CSMNL then.  :(

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2019, 10:36:48 PM »
Different height also


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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2019, 10:40:55 PM »
Just shows how much you can trust the lists from CSMNL then.  :(

Yes mate, and they also recon that the brake shoes are the same  ;)

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Re: Rear wheel bearing retainer stuck
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2019, 02:01:30 AM »
The brake shoes are, its the hub and plate that are different.

 

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