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Offline Green1

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Re: Always get an estimate!
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2019, 08:12:19 PM »

You are obviously an honourable chap Bob and don't deserve such treatment.

Athough the curtains we sell are in no way related to the bike industry, the principles you operate to should be the same in any business. Lots of people say to us - "I don't care about the price, I want it,  just do it". We still  always insist on giving  a firm cost. I personally often feel uncomfortable  when giving people a cost as they may understandably have no Idea of potenial price and I would not want to shock them. Just shows why you should do it.  Simply would not feel morally comfortable sticking an end cost on a job without prior agreement to an accurate estimate.



I don't know how you get any work dealing with curtains I have the same issue when pricing wallpapers. A roll on its own sounds cheap but when I say you need so many rolls most people run a mile.
I had one recently that was £58+VAT per meter not roll after I worked out the price even I fell over.
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« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2019, 08:27:33 PM »
There is no rip off here. The restorer was asked to do a job, which he did. He was not asked to give a price on the job.

Look at the process of doing these complicated part and most fabricators I know charge £60 to £70 per hour.

First he would of had them reversed chromed. Then chemically de rusted, before cutting and rotten metal out. He would of then had to bend new parts of metal and stitch them in, braze the seams and grind down flat and blend to the original metal. Then once correct, polish it up to a high grade finish before sending it is be copper plated and chromed. Not a 5 minute job and a lot of outside work done by third parties.

I don't know why you did not ask of the forum, if anyone has any. I must have a couple of sets kicking about.
 

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Re: Always get an estimate!
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2019, 08:36:23 PM »
It wasn’t you was it....? Lol 😆

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« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2019, 09:10:13 PM »
The price is shocking to most of us, but Trigger is right about the amount of work involved. If this specialist is used to dealing with million pound cars or rare bikes like Brough Superiors then he probably has customers paying those sort of bills for rare, impossible to replace parts all the time. Not me though! 😕
 
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« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2019, 09:16:25 PM »
Funnily enough I agree with Trigger's comments for exactly the reasons he gives. Not looking for sympathy just a warning to be a bit more careful than me before getting involved in expensive restoration work. However, I wish I had known about the apparently vast number of headlamp brackets going spare 'cos I spent a lot of time looking for the bloody things and I couldn't find any! :(

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« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2019, 11:23:13 PM »
 You can buy a new set of exhausts for a CB750 for the same money!!! and most enthusiast would still baulk at that......come on get real.... I really do feel for you although you seem to be taking it well to the point of actually defending the chap,  but I presume you didn’t start this thread because you were over the moon with your purchase.... its bad enough having to shell out large sums especially on the run up to Xmas, but just about bearable if you are getting value..... I did it a few years ago when my BMW turbo blew up..... but £1500 for a pair of refurbed headlamp lugs is not value for money. Anyway, the forum exists to share advice and information, promote good suppliers and expose bad ones... so why not share the details of this reasonable supplier, I’m guessing he made a decent job of them?.

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« Reply #36 on: October 17, 2019, 02:03:57 AM »
If anyone needed to find a classic restorer from around this area they could always drop me an email.

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Re: Always get an estimate!
« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2019, 07:50:01 AM »
I don't care who he deals with or what time it takes, after looking at them his first words should have been do you know what I charge and what they are going to cost.  >:(
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« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2019, 01:48:58 PM »
Well I've got to say I'm not shocked, surprised I suppose but not shocked. I'd certainly like to see the finished articles, I'd also like to know what model the brackets were off, for some reason I think it's a 500K but I'm not sure if it's ever been mentioned what model it was.

As for naming and shaming, I'm not 100% sure that would be fair. First off because we have only heard one side of the story, there may be circumstances that haven't been mentioned yet and once mud starts flying it tends to stick and it may not be fully warranted.

I got involved in a set of circumstances a few years ago with a specialist brake builder, I bought a set of billet alloy brackets for my modded car that he had been the first to make for another car like mine, I bought the second set and they didn't fit as the first car had super wide wheels on it and he thought they all had the same type, mine were wide but not wide enough, it ended up getting very ugly very fast with lots of name calling etc, he threatened to sue the forum I named and shamed him on if they didn't delete the post where I'd done just that. I had documented evidence backing all my statements and had to forward them to the forum owner and he still buckled and withdrew the post, I ended up withdrawing from the forum in disgust, they asked me to name and shame and when I did I was hung out to dry. Maybe bear that in mind BobV as once you go down that road it can get to the point you really wish you hadn't. My situation ended ok but only because I compromised.
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« Reply #39 on: October 17, 2019, 02:18:39 PM »
They were from a 1972 CB500 Four. The repair work is excellent, not so sure about the finish but that's that. I decided not to name the company for all the very good reasons you give. It's only my side of the story and without the other side giving their version it can quickly turn nasty and spiral out of control. I only posted it as a reminder that life can be like a greasy cucumber; you think you have a firm grasp and next second your eyes are watering! ::)

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Re: Always get an estimate!
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2019, 06:57:19 PM »
You must point your cucumbers in a strange direction. :o

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Re: Always get an estimate!
« Reply #41 on: October 17, 2019, 08:32:03 PM »
Good advice oddjob... i think “name and shame’ is probably not the right approach.... but I think “name” is ok... everyone could then make their own mind up....... There is lots of naming of service providers on here.... that’s what makes it useful