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Re: What is a realistic lifespan for a CB500/550 camchain?
« Reply #76 on: June 22, 2020, 09:22:35 PM »
Can anybody explain why a new Kawaski primary one which is the same from Fowlers is almost 2/3 cheaper at £44?


That price would of been the last time Fowlers had one in stock and that could of been 20 or 30 years ago  ;)

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Re: What is a realistic lifespan for a CB500/550 camchain?
« Reply #77 on: June 22, 2020, 09:37:40 PM »
That price would of been the last time Fowlers had one in stock and that could of been 20 or 30 years ago  ;)
I don't think so. https://www.cmsnl.com/products/chain-drive_920571011/

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Re: What is a realistic lifespan for a CB500/550 camchain?
« Reply #78 on: June 22, 2020, 09:53:58 PM »
That is without VAT and P&P, total makes €66,55.....

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Re: What is a realistic lifespan for a CB500/550 camchain?
« Reply #79 on: June 22, 2020, 11:05:37 PM »
That price would of been the last time Fowlers had one in stock and that could of been 20 or 30 years ago  ;)
I don't think so. https://www.cmsnl.com/products/chain-drive_920571011/

That is NOT £44  :o
All you have to do is order :23131 323 000 at 63 euro. Well, that is what i pay for them  ;)

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Re: What is a realistic lifespan for a CB500/550 camchain?
« Reply #80 on: June 23, 2020, 06:37:07 AM »
I wonder who the maker is.

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Re: What is a realistic lifespan for a CB500/550 camchain?
« Reply #81 on: June 23, 2020, 02:35:34 PM »
If that's the case then Graham then it's still cheaper to order the Kawasaki chain rather than the Honda one, if the chain is identical (and I've no proof it is at this moment but suspect it probably is) then why as Bryan says is there such a discrepancy in the prices, either Honda or the Honda dealers are ripping people off. Plus if you can get them for 63 euro then imagine what DS is paying for them, yet he wants £90 for a single chain including delivery.

I think you will find that Sliver wants £135 for a Honda chain >> https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/parts/by-part-number/hpart_23131323000/

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Re: What is a realistic lifespan for a CB500/550 camchain?
« Reply #82 on: June 23, 2020, 06:54:14 PM »
That price would of been the last time Fowlers had one in stock and that could of been 20 or 30 years ago  ;)
I don't think so. https://www.cmsnl.com/products/chain-drive_920571011/
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Re: What is a realistic lifespan for a CB500/550 camchain?
« Reply #83 on: June 24, 2020, 08:03:27 AM »
[ Guests cannot view attachments ] I bought my original 500 primary chain from Yamiya and pretty sure it was the ---323--- part printed on the bag label but I sold that to Trigger and bought myself another one from Yamiya and I just fitted it to my engine. Just noticed though that the part number is 23131-426-003. So another part number to search for if you need a genuine Honda branded primary chain. (same chain on 400/4 & 500/4 for anyone who doesn't already know).

I have no idea if my original 3/71 primary chain is original .. although I suspect it is ..... and it's stampled 'MORSE' on each link plate. I always remembered the 500 in magazines described as  having a morse chain primary drive but I always assumed that they were the inventors and that Honda would have fitted another manufacturers copy of it.

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Re: What is a realistic lifespan for a CB500/550 camchain?
« Reply #84 on: June 24, 2020, 08:06:15 AM »
426 is the 650 Ash, i think you will find the sump o ring has a 426 number and the oil filter now, probably others as well but not looked that close.

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Re: What is a realistic lifespan for a CB500/550 camchain?
« Reply #85 on: June 24, 2020, 09:18:19 AM »
"I have no idea if my original 3/71 primary chain is original .. although I suspect it is ..... and it's stampled 'MORSE' on each link plate. I always remembered the 500 in magazines described as  having a morse chain primary drive but I always assumed that they were the inventors and that Honda would have fitted another manufacturers copy of it."

I understand it to be that it's a "Morse" type in design,  tooth form multiple links and singular load pin,  also that Borg Warner completed the development of this type of drive to facilitate high speed use,  which gave us "Hi-Vo" as a protected design/ brand.

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Re: What is a realistic lifespan for a CB500/550 camchain?
« Reply #86 on: June 24, 2020, 10:54:47 AM »
Was used in Chevrolets but I don't know for what.

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Re: What is a realistic lifespan for a CB500/550 camchain?
« Reply #87 on: June 24, 2020, 11:13:46 AM »
Common in 4x4 tranfer boxes. Also 250/400 N models camchain

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Re: What is a realistic lifespan for a CB500/550 camchain?
« Reply #88 on: June 24, 2020, 11:19:55 AM »
Our local engineering and parts supply place years ago used to have a catalogue of chains from Westinghouse, including hi vo/Morse chains. At the time he was getting primary chains from Westinghouse for around a third the cost of genuine Honda ones. Absolutely no difference in appearance or longevity.

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Re: What is a realistic lifespan for a CB500/550 camchain?
« Reply #89 on: June 24, 2020, 01:12:38 PM »
Tsubaki chain?

 

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