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[allankelly1]

Hi Mike

Yes it is possible but it takes a bit of work and thought

The main change as well as forks, lower sliders, modifying the discs to a four bolt mount and refurbing the CB400N calipers is that the speedo drive on a CB400N is on the other side (And also it has an angle so the speedo drive cable misses the disc) so you need to make up a new drive for the original CB400f hub and fix it to the hub on the LH side  (when sitting on the bike) rather than on the original RH side. Plus the CB400N speedo drive itself is modified (I needed to reduce its width by about 5mm so that it fits in the space left but keeping the wheel central to the forks

Some pic below of the modification











End result is rather pleasing to the eye and does not look out of place on a bike like this

Almost factory looking





If you need any more info happy to share the change in more detail

Best wishes Al


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[Green1]

Looks stock I like it. Does it make a noticeable differance?
Or do you just get Twice the squeal 

[royhall]

Nice work there. Are those the same calipers as the 750F2? If so, they will stand that bike on it's nose.

[allankelly1]

Hi Green1

No squeal yet

Not sure on the difference as when I got the bike the front end was really bad and on a strip down it was very badly maintained (Note the missing bolts) and never bothered to sort as already planned a non standard front end as the bike was never going to be standard / original bike




I am sure a well set up single would work ok  but floating fist type calipers remove the need to setup / manually adjust the inner pad clearance  to get it to work correctly and also with the CB400N pads there is more surface area so braking efficiency is improved

Also with the modification should you wish I think this change will give you more disc options (EBC) and other better pad materials to chose from if you need something better

Never understood why Honda used such a basic/ primitive setup and you can understand when the RD350LC came out in 1980 it was such a success as the brakes on my RD are really the same as on the modified Honda but just fitted with EBC full floaters to improve things without the need to change over to a more modern calipers as want to still keep the period look




Stay safe all

Best wishes Al


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[Laverda Dave]

This is what I err,..... purchased to begin my 400/4 restoration in 2016. The previous owner bought a 'complete' (or so he thought) 400/4, stripped it down into several lumps and lost interest.
I bought it on eBay and spent two years restoring it. Anything can be restored if you throw time and money at it, just don't expect to get either back! I would definitely do it again though, great fun and I learnt a lot.

[royhall]

Lovely job on that Dave. Always liked the blue ones.

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

Why is there no V5 how can the seller prove he even owns it,  has a legitimate title to the bike, that it is not stolen or an insurance write off ?
No rear photo showing a registration mark?

The V5 is not proof of ownership it is a log of registered keepers I have bought and sold vans and bikes without them.
I am the registered keeper of my sisters car but not the legal owner and I have recently bought a Transit tipper it is registered with a building firm but I am the legal owner.
A bill of sale is all thats needed.

Agreed but you can't apply for a duplicate log book if you are not the current keeper - DVLA will not easily disclose keeper details (unless your a private car park parasite chasing an unpaid ticket) so you can contact the last registered keeper.
How do you break this circle and get a V5 ? DVLA & police  advice is pretty firm that you should not  purchase a vehicle without  sight of the V5 in the name of the owner/keeper and are in receipt of the V5C/2 New Keeper Section.

This is without even thinking about stuff like folk who get a  Log Book Loan and then sell a vehicle or when there is outstanding finance etc. As a retired Custody Sergeant I am only too aware of the dishonesty that is out there.

[Bryanj]

You can, or at least could, apply for a log book as not the current keeper but you had to wait for DVLA to write to the "registered" person telling him that somebody had applied for one and did he mind, they then waited about 6 weeks and if no reply issued the V5

[Charlie J]

I bought my project bike without a log book. I filled in DVLA form V62 with my details together with the frame and registration numbers and sent it off with a cheque for £25. I got an acknowledgement from DVLA saying that my application should be processed on 01st October and a V5C issued to me. So, hopefully I should receive my new log book in the next few days.

[allankelly1]

Just for info

Many years ago I sold a car to the motor trade and a few months later I got a letter from the DVLA saying somebody had applied for the v5 and if I did not reply the v5 would be issue to them

Best wishes always Al


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[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

You can, or at least could, apply for a log book as not the current keeper but you had to wait for DVLA to write to the "registered" person telling him that somebody had applied for one and did he mind, they then waited about 6 weeks and if no reply issued the V5

I did not know that - makes sense really when vehicles move within the trade and V5's get lost.