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Cb 500 k1 with a k2 engine?
« on: February 23, 2021, 02:30:27 PM »
Hi guys I need some help. I'm new to the forum and always been in love with Honda bike, I found one 3 hours driving from where I live, the bike has 3 owner since new, the last one since 2004. He says he never has done any maintenance, only oil change every year.  Do you reckon this is a genuine bike.?I'm looking for a all original collector bike. The frame number is 2064030  the engine number is cb500e 2152699.
should the engine number start  with 1xxxxxxx.
THanks very much for your help. Regards.
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Re: Cb 500 k1 with a k2 engine?
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2021, 02:33:54 PM »
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Re: Cb 500 k1 with a k2 engine?
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2021, 02:36:33 PM »
how do I attached photo?

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Re: Cb 500 k1 with a k2 engine?
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2021, 02:40:47 PM »
Engines starting with a 1 are K0 not K1. It sounds very much like a very late K1 production model, 206 with a 215 number would be consistent with what Honda were doing at the time.
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Re: Cb 500 k1 with a k2 engine?
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2021, 02:49:58 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2021, 02:53:55 PM »
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Re: Cb 500 k1 with a k2 engine?
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2021, 02:57:39 PM »
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Thanks in advance for your help, I' ve been looking for a 500 for a long time, so IT has to be a original one.
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Re: Cb 500 k1 with a k2 engine?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2021, 03:14:02 PM »
Engines starting with a 1 are K0 not K1. It sounds very much like a very late K1 production model, 206 with a 215 number would be consistent with what Honda were doing at the time.

ok thanks, The bike was registered in 1975, 16000 km, you reckon that is the original engine?
I thought the engine serial shoul be   CB500E-2000001-.
regards
 

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Re: Cb 500 k1 with a k2 engine?
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2021, 03:32:56 PM »
The answer is always the same: simply compare your engine- and framenumber to those listed in the first four pages of the CB500 Parts Lists. Only then you will know what exact model you have and for which market it was ment to go. You'll find these lists all here: http://www.honda4fun.com/materiale-documentazione-tecnica/parts-list/parts-list-cb500
For continental Europe this can help: Per l'identificazione del modello di CB500, consigliamo di consultare questa FAQ - CB500: differenze tra K0, K1 e K2. http://www.honda4fun.com/home/faq/generali/111-cb500-differenze-k0-k1-k2 You can thank your fellow Italians for this.
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Re: Cb 500 k1 with a k2 engine?
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2021, 05:45:34 PM »
Engines starting with a 1 are K0 not K1. It sounds very much like a very late K1 production model, 206 with a 215 number would be consistent with what Honda were doing at the time.

ok thanks, The bike was registered in 1975, 16000 km, you reckon that is the original engine?
I thought the engine serial shoul be   CB500E-2000001-.
regards

There are quite a few instances of where Honda were using K2 parts on the K1 production run. Funnily enough if you look at the pages of the K1 parts book part 1 on the link Deltarider has listed you'll see someone has written he had a frame number of 2044391 but the engine was a 2130710. As Honda were using up all the K1 parts it appears they ran out of engines so started to substitute K2 engines which TBH are the same except for some small mods like having the longer rocker shafts.
I would be 99% sure the engine is the original fitted by Honda.
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Re: Cb 500 k1 with a k2 engine?
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2021, 05:53:30 PM »
Thanks for your replies, so according to the file posted the bike should be a  k1 frame with a k2 engine.  or a very late K1 production model with a k2 engine serial.yes  I have noted the serian written by hand, but I know myself I will have a constant bug in my head "did I get a franken bike"? What do you guys recommend? Better look for another one?  Plus the current owner got the bike in 2004, never done any maintenance, so I guess it need some TLC, asking price is 6700 euros
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Re: Cb 500 k1 with a k2 engine?
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2021, 10:07:07 PM »
Bike is original, if it's in good nick and worth the money buy it.
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Re: Cb 500 k1 with a k2 engine?
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2021, 08:04:41 AM »
The European K2 is from: enginenumber 2166156 on, framenumber is from 2080001 on, so yours is a K1. That 'PG' on the license plate, is that Perugia?

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Re: Cb 500 k1 with a k2 engine?
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2021, 08:05:20 AM »
"Plus the current owner got the bike in 2004, never done any maintenance"

"He says he never has done any maintenance, only oil change every year. "

It looks like it's been kept inside,  with oil change each year. This is a very good starting point as many of then don't have this. For more detailed inspection, that's only possible once you get it and ride it, but for the money it seems quite an original bike and worthwhile to buy.


 

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