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Offline Johnny4428

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Someone’s been in a hurry!
« on: March 05, 2023, 09:12:31 AM »
This amused me! My notification from Sirius.
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Re: Someone’s been in a hurry!
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2023, 10:42:06 AM »
hmm, weird anecdote:

the last time I'd ordered OEM idle jets for an ST1100 (jet, slow, #40, 991034370400) they appeared to be made out of some SS alloy instead the usual brass I'd expected...
Coincidence, simple change of vendor, or an intended countermeasure by mother Honda?

Guess I'll know for sure with the next set I'm ordering in the future...
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Re: Someone’s been in a hurry!
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2023, 10:50:45 AM »
Strange they would change the type of metal, not as if brass is affected by ethanol, thankfully.
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Re: Someone’s been in a hurry!
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2023, 10:55:46 AM »
Indeed, I'd rather worry about O-rings, rubber seals, gaskets and diaphragms in this...
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Re: Someone’s been in a hurry!
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2023, 11:03:14 AM »
Indeed, my pan is very much underused sits about most of the time but haven’t had any issues in the 8 years I have had it.
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1974 Honda CB550K1. Running resto,
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1999 ST1100 Pan European 50th Anniversary.
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Re: Someone’s been in a hurry!
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2023, 09:40:21 AM »
Strange they would change the type of metal, not as if brass is affected by ethanol, thankfully.

I thought that brass was one of the metals affected by Ethanol. I may be wrong though, having a senior moment.
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Re: Someone’s been in a hurry!
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2023, 10:36:42 AM »
Can't see Alcohol attacking Brass though there is something called the Olygodymanic effect with surface ions.
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Re: Someone’s been in a hurry!
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2023, 04:56:58 PM »
Although ethanol has been known to gum up and cause clogging in fuel injectors and fuel filters, the corrosion problem is typically limited to carbureted engines, according to Scott Diehl, National Sales Manager at Driven Racing Oil.

“Ethanol in a modern fuel-injected vehicle is typically not a problem,” he said. “The components used in these engines are more compatible, but carburetors are typically made from alloys that are more susceptible to corrosion–zinc, aluminum, and brass.”

According to Ed Callis, V.P., Technology at Red Line Synthetic Oil, other components are at risk, too.

“Fuel hoses, O-rings, seals commonly installed in older engines and fuel systems are negatively affected by ethanol,” Callis said. “Leakage can result, so these components should be changed out with ethanol-resistant components.”

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Re: Someone’s been in a hurry!
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2023, 05:55:17 PM »
Although ethanol has been known to gum up and cause clogging in fuel injectors and fuel filters, the corrosion problem is typically limited to carbureted engines, according to Scott Diehl, National Sales Manager at Driven Racing Oil.
Dunno, the owner of the Toyota workshop I get my trusty '96 Carina E serviced, told me about a BOSCH seminar he attended, showing the results due to Ethanol content after (simulated) 400,000km on a Diesel injector...
The outer casing looked like melted, forming an "icicle" pointing into the combustion chamber...
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Re: Someone’s been in a hurry!
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2023, 06:53:23 PM »
Although ethanol has been known to gum up and cause clogging in fuel injectors and fuel filters, the corrosion problem is typically limited to carbureted engines, according to Scott Diehl, National Sales Manager at Driven Racing Oil.
Dunno, the owner of the Toyota workshop I get my trusty '96 Carina E serviced, told me about a BOSCH seminar he attended, showing the results due to Ethanol content after (simulated) 400,000km on a Diesel injector...
The outer casing looked like melted, forming an "icicle" pointing into the combustion chamber...

Most/many petrol engine are not direct injection generally, and so dont have the injectors exposed to pure combustion.  Does diesel have ethanol in it there?

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Re: Someone’s been in a hurry!
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2023, 11:12:32 PM »
Not ethanol but biodiesel which is made using methanol

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Re: Someone’s been in a hurry!
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2023, 05:13:49 PM »
Not ethanol but biodiesel which is made using methanol
Supposed to be E5 (premium) or E10 (regular), but test showed it can be up to E20...  ???
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