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« Reply #285 on: May 06, 2022, 04:34:27 AM »
I might have a pair of sliders you can have Roo. They weren't up to my extremely high standard so I bought some more. No charge, it's about time you got a break. Pay for postage and I'll finish them off and post them down to you. Might be a week or 2 though as I'm doing some plastering and brickwork, it will be one day working and one day in bed recovering, such is my health at the moment. I'm not about to pop me clogs or anything, it's just the pain that working causes me these days. Thank god for Tramadol  ;D ;D

If you look on page 4 of my project thread you can see the right hand one, the left hand didn't turn out as good, almost but there were some small marks that refused to come out and I ended up with a dip in the alloy trying to get it out. Decided in the end to just replace them. Hope you like polished as they are kinda bright, the left hand one wants finishing off which I didn't do as I lost interest in it.
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« Reply #286 on: May 06, 2022, 02:22:06 PM »
Check the fork stanchion thread Roo, some for sale on there.
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« Reply #287 on: May 06, 2022, 03:11:30 PM »
Check the fork stanchion thread Roo, some for sale on there.
Will do bud, cheers


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Re: 550 F2 started!
« Reply #288 on: May 06, 2022, 04:02:17 PM »
Roo, has your parcel arrived?

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« Reply #289 on: May 08, 2022, 02:22:19 PM »
NO Philbut they did try to drop something off yesterday, Ive just got back from fishing So I'm just wading through the post and sorting stuff but doesnt appear so.
I'll wait to see what theyre going to do, my Posty is ace so Im sure it'll get herer. Exciting.........books! Love a book!!! :)

Ken, yup I'll have tghe bottoms but Impaying you for them! Pop em on the pile mate ;) There's an MASSIVE favour coming your way bud, cant thank you enough mate. Thats a huge cock up sorted with those forks from Si (3scs).
That starter cover came saturday, well chuffed for a fiver form a breakers. Thats two breaks in a row with your forks mate!

Bloody hell 8) ;D

As ever, youre a start ken, cheers
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« Reply #290 on: May 08, 2022, 02:23:00 PM »



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1977 CB400F (the last money pit!)
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« Reply #291 on: May 08, 2022, 08:35:21 PM »
Bargain for a fiver Roo.
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« Reply #292 on: May 08, 2022, 10:00:47 PM »
well chuffed,some good news for a change  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #293 on: May 09, 2022, 10:49:36 AM »
Quick one cos I just don’t know snd struggling with reading 50,000 threads on the subject.
What colour plastigauge do I need to buy to check these shells, never used it before as I’m a crank shell measuring virgin?

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Never had to do it before, green or red?

Don’t laugh!


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Re: 550 F2 started!
« Reply #294 on: May 09, 2022, 11:20:49 AM »
According to their website red and if you are on minimum clearance that is a bit big as clearance is 0.0007 to 0.0019  whilst the plastigauge is 0.001 to 0.002

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« Reply #295 on: May 09, 2022, 11:33:06 AM »
Thats what was getting my knickers in a twist a bit. I'll get some red and just cut the bits in half then? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Cheers Bryan, I may need a bit of question answering on this but I'll get all the bits I need and clear a space, have a thunk n a  swear and probably be back on here. I get my cases back in a week or so and just prepping as yer do.


What has anybody else used, just the red (thinnest ones)?
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Re: 550 F2 started!
« Reply #296 on: May 09, 2022, 12:10:25 PM »
Quick one cos I just don’t know snd struggling with reading 50,000 threads on the subject.
What colour plastigauge do I need to buy to check these shells, never used it before as I’m a crank shell measuring virgin?

Mum will be chuffed after all these years

Never had to do it before, green or red?

Don’t laugh!


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Beware of cheap Green as it might be the wrong size range.

Hope  it helps but this is a reprint from Ash when I was doing my crank on the 400.

.Hi Ted ... yes the GREEN is still red but for small clearsnce bearings (typically 1 to 2 thou")

You put crankshaft in upside down top half ... place strip across journal (see below about using oil ..I use smear of silicone grease)  then carefully place crankcase lower on top case and clamp with main bolts to correct torque... hope this helps ... Best wishes Ash.

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Bolt Boots, Bearing Guard and
Plastigage

Clevite® Plastigage
Plastigage was designed as a final check of
total vertical oil clearance during reassembly. It
was not meant as a replacement for properly
measuring crankshaft journals, housing
bores or bearing dimensions before engine
reassembly with accurate mics and gauges.
To properly use Plastigage during reassembly,
readings should be taken on the bearing cap
half shell while the weight of the crankshaft or
piston and rod assembly is supported by the
other half shell.
Place a small amount of oil on the crankshaft
journal only where the Plastigage will be placed
and wipe any excess oil off with a clean rag.
This will result in a more accurate reading by
preventing the PLASTIGAGE from sticking to
the journal.
Place a strand of Plastigage across the length
of the journal parallel to the crankshaft.
Set the cap in place and tighten bolts to the
proper OEM torque specification. NOTE: if the
crankshaft is moved at this point it will smear
the Plastigage, resulting in inaccurate readings.
Carefully remove the cap and measure the
crushed Plastigage using the graduations
printed on the package. Measure the crush
along the entire length of the Plastigage, noting
the highs and lows for proper clearance.
After you have made your measurements,
carefully remove the crushed Plastigage from
the components without scratching the bearing
or the journal.
Clevite® Plastigage is available in four different
sizes to check total vertical oil clearance on
connecting rod and main bearings. Each
package has a measuring scale printed in
inches and millimeters. Strips are color coded
for easy size identification and are soluble in oil.
MPG1 .001”—.003” (.025 —.075mm) Green*
MPR1 .002”—.006” (.050 —.15mm) Red*
MPB1 .004”—.009” (.10 —.23mm) Blue*
MPY1 .009”—.020” (.23 —.50mm) Yellow*
(*Sold in quantities of 12 strips only)
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Re: 550 F2 started!
« Reply #297 on: May 09, 2022, 02:12:35 PM »
Looking on the plastigauge uk website the green is now the biggest and red the smallest plus there are now 5 colours, nothing seems to be for less than 0.001" but theoretically it would just be wider than the biggest mark on the card

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« Reply #298 on: May 09, 2022, 04:14:55 PM »
Roo, both of the rotors I removed are too rusty to use. I've had one in rust remover for 4 days now and it's still not great. I think it's best if you carried on using your current one, I'll scrap both of these.

If I go down the the hard chromers I'll take those fork tubes with me and see what they think, it's possible they could weld the cut shut, grind it down, hard chrome it and it would be good to use. I'd say the cuts are around 1-2mm deep is all.
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« Reply #299 on: May 09, 2022, 05:21:01 PM »
RE the rotors Ken, no worries. Like you say, mineshould work it just looks really odd. I'll call it a historic war wound :D
 
The forks from Simon that you put in contact with me sound pretty good and have just been fettled by Philpots so I think it might be good to get those and your super bling sliders if they're really upfor grabs?
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1977 CB550F (current money pit!!)
2002 VFR800 VTEC (The Beloved)
1977 CB400F (the last money pit!)
1998 Ducati 748\853 conversion(sold :()
1980 ish CB750KZ in a billion bits (need to get rid, anybody want one?))

 

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