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« Reply #315 on: May 11, 2022, 11:42:13 AM »
pop it on the pile Ken please ::)
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« Reply #316 on: May 11, 2022, 02:58:55 PM »
Didn't come with that small hook bracket Roo but TBH it's not needed for the conversion anyway.

You have a read on how it's done? within your skill set?
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« Reply #317 on: May 11, 2022, 03:08:06 PM »
I'll have a proper read later as I have had a quick skim but in the middle of changing all the brakes and lines on the VFR......... What a vile job! They really couldnt have squeezed any more bike under those plastics, there is so little fiddle room it means the untwisting of lines to get them in the right spot and bent the right way is an utter pig!

#Be glad when Ive done this.

Wheel bearings in, discs done, pads in so all thr fronts done, just the proportioning valve to do, ABS pump to hoo up and the rear linked gubbins.


What a pig!

What's worse is that the bench is currently covered in CB750 motor and bags of CB550 bits meaning yet again, I'm grovelling about on the bloody floor!

I think I'm going to need a new hip ;D
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« Reply #318 on: August 06, 2022, 05:15:55 PM »
Ok,

so after gathering the gubbins required for looking at getting the shells identified and replaced, I've hit my first hurdle which it appears, all seem to have when undertaking this job.

Basically, there are no markings on my crank except the ones shown in the frst web which read 74.4.22. There is nothing else on there at all even after washing with two separarte batches of petrol, (just in case Id used the premix can)!

In this instance how do you measure up or identify the correct shells to order?

I have identified the cases as having the marks BBBBB


The crank measures from Number 1 to 4 with the last bearing being numbered 5...
1= 33.01mm
2= 32.99mm
3= 33.00mm
4= 33.01mm
5= 33.02mm

I have a number 2 printed on all the rods but again, nothing else has survived the last 40 odd years of no maintenance and I'm struggling a bit.

The crank measurements are pretty  consistant so looking at the chart would that mean that this is an all BROWN case?

I've got this right round my ears as I never measure anything this small, not that much call for micrometres in fishery management and not that familiar with the scales and the mental picture with which to work this outm its just not going in!
 When ever I've used my lathe it's always been to the nearest mm not to be measuring thou's and these micro scales so I'm a bit lost tbh.

Any help gratefully received as this is very much wearing a bit thin now.
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« Reply #319 on: August 06, 2022, 05:21:39 PM »
If the cases are all B's then you've really only ever had either greens or browns fitted. If the crank had a 1 it was a green, if it was a 2 it was a brown.

I'd just fit all browns, they are the slightly bigger shell and so long as you run it in correctly you'll be fine.

Same applies to the rods, only greens or browns for a No2 rod. Fit all browns again.
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« Reply #320 on: August 06, 2022, 05:22:50 PM »



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« Reply #321 on: August 06, 2022, 05:23:23 PM »



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« Reply #322 on: August 06, 2022, 05:37:06 PM »
Nice one Ken, I was starting to confuse myself and new I'd read that you could fit all the same just run it in very carefully. That is a given after this much shed time so happy with that Browns all round it is.


So.....................ANYONE GOT A FULL SET OR SPARE BROWN SHELLS UP FOR GRABS??

Looking in the book it appears I need  10 x #13316 323 000 and 8 x #13216 323 003


Would this be right the? Surely they could have made a far more complicated system than this and written things on the parts in more invisible ink? ;D ;D
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Re: 550 F2 started!
« Reply #323 on: August 06, 2022, 08:09:15 PM »
The markings are there but not easy to see on a used crank. Honda probably believed you would only need to replace shells when replacing the crank which would be more visible.
You can always come and visit for me to measure if you want mate but give me a bit of warning so i can find and calibrate the mic

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« Reply #324 on: August 06, 2022, 09:02:09 PM »
DS has them both in stock Roo.

The ones you can fit all the same are black shells as they are the thickest shell so will wear to the right size so long as you run the engine in carefully.
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« Reply #325 on: August 07, 2022, 01:03:10 AM »
Yeah, seen the, and have themin my basket already,justseing if anyonehad somefunds to recoupfrom buying the wrong unsfirst time round.
Just short of a fiver less than 300 quid for 18..........eek!

While I'm on, is it sensible to wire brush these and give em agood fettle with some sort of solvent to get this crap off them, they're looking pretty shoddy and I dont fancy putting em back in my nice clean, prepped cases looking like that? Themak is quite engrained so being the king of bling and all things shiney, what do you reckon?
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« Reply #326 on: August 07, 2022, 01:03:34 AM »



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« Reply #327 on: August 07, 2022, 01:03:54 AM »



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« Reply #328 on: August 07, 2022, 01:04:15 AM »



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Re: 550 F2 started!
« Reply #329 on: August 07, 2022, 01:42:15 AM »
You can clean them if you want. Don’t go mad though.
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