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Offline McCabe-Thiele (Ted)

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Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« on: November 16, 2021, 12:24:23 PM »
I have a none standard front headlamp & bowl - wasn't fussed that it had no integral sidelamp as I planned to fit some sort of LED low whattage daytime running light.

I've retro fitted quite a few on cars but I have no idea who makes them for bikes I guess there is a custom market place somewhere.

I was thinking it could be mounted somewhere under the heaadlamp - lots of room methinks.


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Re: Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2021, 04:05:27 PM »
Have a look at Paul Goffs emporium: http://www.norbsa02.freeuk.com/index.htm, I've used stuff from him on a couple of my bikes and my experience was fine.

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Re: Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2021, 06:12:12 PM »
Which size headlight are you using ? as these give a neat solution

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 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401576782136 if yours is now 7 inch diameter  (obviously the original isn't) but still look quite traditional in lens form.

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Re: Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2021, 10:38:49 PM »
I'll have to measure up but tbh I'm no fan of angel eyes - too much like a fairy light for my liking.
You have got me thinking though as I have a Polycarbonate  LED headlamp in my loft might be worth me checking if it has a basic sidelamp.

Nearest I've found so far on flea-bay are these -  first one is not too wide (3.42") it would fit between the forks under the headlamp. I've asked if they sell them individually and what the power consumption is so waiting for an answer on both options - I'll look into my loft in the morning to see if the LED unit fits my bowl - I've an idea its a strange fitting.


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Re: Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2021, 11:06:58 PM »
Ted I have an originl lens and ring if you want it, it has the side light hole in it so you'll have to find teh holder if its not with it. If it fits your shell mind.

Yours for postage if you want it mate ;)
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Re: Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2021, 11:21:10 PM »
"I'll have to measure up but tbh I'm no fan of angel eyes - too much like a fairy light for my liking."

I don't mind either way about them, suit some better than others.

Something I do feel though is they just attract attention in main and peripheral sighting even in traffic, which is what DTRL implementation is supposed to do.

We seem to have basic core response to round eye like geometry whether we realise or not that may help in a safety aspect. If you consider what draws your eye when driving you may feel that some elements grab attention faster or in a mixed view to alert you.

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Re: Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2021, 07:15:29 AM »
If you read further down in the specifications it says 9W.


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Re: Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2021, 07:21:38 AM »
If you read further down in the specifications it says 9W.


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Yes it does for the first option but the round lights seem devoid of dimensions, whattage etc.
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Re: Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2021, 12:48:09 PM »
Ted I have an originl lens and ring if you want it, it has the side light hole in it so you'll have to find teh holder if its not with it. If it fits your shell mind.

Yours for postage if you want it mate ;)
Mine is a different sized shell original was broken - thanks for the offer mate. Even similar sized shells vhave different rim fits.
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Re: Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2021, 02:50:25 PM »
I’m going to be faced with similar issue on the Yankee 750, which I haven’t thought about yet. I usually run with dipped headlight in daytime anyway so not sure whether I need a sidelight?
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Re: Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2021, 04:23:02 PM »
Just fit a UK reflector instead of the US sealed beam, all the wiring is there for the sidelight you just need the bulbholder

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Re: Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2021, 05:25:42 PM »
I’m going to be faced with similar issue on the Yankee 750, which I haven’t thought about yet. I usually run with dipped headlight in daytime anyway so not sure whether I need a sidelight?

As you know if It needed an MoT it would fail without a sidelight  -  I have no window in my headlight for a sidelamp my DTRL will effectively double as a sidelight - for now I've ordered a cheapish  DTRL of a type I've used before 12 watts & a tad over 2.5" square - £8.66 - they have SS fittings & alloy lamp case. Might swap it out in the future for something neater when I see one.

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Re: Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2021, 05:36:14 PM »
Well, a 7" Hella headlight (H4 + 5W) comes for under € 30,- over here...
Lower price + keeping the original appearance...  ???
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Re: Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2021, 06:24:52 PM »
Thanks Bryan, yes I’d probably swap it out just to keep it on the right side of road worthy although it’s an historic vehicle and won’t be MOT’d.
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Re: Suggestions for a DTRL or small side lamp please.
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2021, 07:06:28 PM »
Ted I have an originl lens and ring if you want it, it has the side light hole in it so you'll have to find teh holder if its not with it. If it fits your shell mind.

Yours for postage if you want it mate ;)
Mine is a different sized shell original was broken - thanks for the offer mate. Even similar sized shells vhave different rim fits.

Not to worry Ted, if you manage to snag an original shell its there for you mate, you never know. ;)
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