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Honda color coded wires?
« on: January 08, 2022, 06:08:48 PM »
hmm...
my previous supplier (http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.eu/VWP-onlinestore/home/homepage.php) for re/building wiring harness seems to have gone out of business...

Where to get cables with the proper color-coding now?
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Re: Honda color coded wires?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2022, 06:23:23 PM »
https://www.vehiclewiringproducts.co.uk/

I'm sure someone will suggest a company near you though.
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Re: Honda color coded wires?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2022, 06:37:17 PM »
Anyone know where I can get thin-walled 1mm² stranded conductor, PVC in Black with White tracer in relatively short lengths (i.e I don't want to buy a full reel).


UPDATE .. looks like Julies link does it /m
« Last Edit: January 08, 2022, 06:46:38 PM by AshimotoK0 »
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Re: Honda color coded wires?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2022, 06:43:43 PM »
Honda Al probably.


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Re: Honda color coded wires?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2022, 10:03:51 AM »
https://www.vehiclewiringproducts.co.uk/

I'm sure someone will suggest a company near you though.
Damn, there it is...
Thanx a lot Julie!
And no, sources for specific cabling and connectors are pretty limited; best sources appear in UK and the US...

Kept digging and found this: http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/Thinwall_cable_cut_to_length.html
offering color coded cabling in 1mm² and upwards, nice
« Last Edit: January 09, 2022, 10:09:44 AM by ST1100 »
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Re: Honda color coded wires?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2022, 10:09:31 AM »
Anyone know where I can get thin-walled 1mm² stranded conductor, PVC in Black with White tracer in relatively short lengths (i.e I don't want to buy a full reel).


UPDATE .. looks like Julies link does it /m

   Is this any good for you. https://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/P00646.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1ojo5bSk9QIVku7tCh0VuAysEAQYASABEgJlVfD_BwE

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Re: Honda color coded wires?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2022, 10:42:36 AM »
Further to Steve's post Honda AL is Alan Lowe his email is alan@alanlowe.co.uk

He makes wiring looms for quite a large range of bikes and gauge wiring looms for ND gauges. Often the rubber covering of the bulb holders are stuck in the gauge bulb apertures and disintegrate upon removal. The rubber covers are available from David Silver but at about £7 a piece plus the VAT and post.

A problem may also exist is that the bulb holders are corroded. Alan's ND looms come with new bulb holders and the wiring so a better option than just replacing the rubber covers. Saves the trouble of unsoldering/soldering the bulb holder to fit new rubber covers.

Good quality and Alan is a very pleasant to deal with.

Just to clarify these gauge looms are for all CB750 fours, CB550 and CB500 fours that have ND gauges fitted. Kawasaki Z650, 900 & Suzuki GT750 also had ND gauges.

 

   

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Re: Honda color coded wires?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2022, 06:15:41 PM »
Thanks for the mention. The lamp holder rubbers that I stock as image, will only fit the larger ND gauges with 14mm lamp sockets... CB750, GT750, Laverda Jota clocks. Most of the smaller Honda gauges have 12mm lamp sockets.
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Re: Honda color coded wires?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2022, 02:52:58 AM »
Are you saying the Nippon Seiki gauges use a different size bulb holder Al?
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Re: Honda color coded wires?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2022, 07:49:28 AM »
Both links are great .. thanks!

I measured Honda cable and its around 2.3 to 2.4 mm overall dia with 30 bare copper strands of 0.2mm wire which equates to about 1mm² conductor size

However, the thin-wall cables both companies sell at 1mm² conductor size  is only around 2mm but their 1.5mm² cable has 0.3mm strands but the correct overall OD for Honda's generally (i.e coil wires, indicators etc)

Has anyone  used their  cables and which version did you choose .. I guess for original look 1.5 mm² will be the best and higher current rating but probably a bit stiffer than the original Sumitomo stuff.
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Re: Honda color coded wires?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2022, 10:10:04 AM »
Both links are great .. thanks!

I measured Honda cable and its around 2.3 to 2.4 mm overall dia with 30 bare copper strands of 0.2mm wire which equates to about 1mm² conductor size

However, the thin-wall cables both companies sell at 1mm² conductor size  is only around 2mm but their 1.5mm² cable has 0.3mm strands but the correct overall OD for Honda's generally (i.e coil wires, indicators etc)

Has anyone  used their  cables and which version did you choose .. I guess for original look 1.5 mm² will be the best and higher current rating but probably a bit stiffer than the original Sumitomo stuff.


  Ash the 12v planet link i gave gives the wire spec as No./size of conductors: 32/0.20mm so should be good for you.

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2022, 10:17:02 AM »
Both links are great .. thanks!

I measured Honda cable and its around 2.3 to 2.4 mm overall dia with 30 bare copper strands of 0.2mm wire which equates to about 1mm² conductor size

However, the thin-wall cables both companies sell at 1mm² conductor size  is only around 2mm but their 1.5mm² cable has 0.3mm strands but the correct overall OD for Honda's generally (i.e coil wires, indicators etc)

Has anyone  used their  cables and which version did you choose .. I guess for original look 1.5 mm² will be the best and higher current rating but probably a bit stiffer than the original Sumitomo stuff.


  Ash the 12v planet link i gave gives the wire spec as No./size of conductors: 32/0.20mm so should be good for you.

cheers ..its a bit down on OD though 2.0mm as opposed to 2.4 mm on Honda stuff. Just wondered if people opt for the 1.5 mm² stuff as it's the correct OD
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Re: Honda color coded wires?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2022, 11:13:04 AM »
Are you saying the Nippon Denso gauges use a different size bulb holder Al?
Most of the gauges/consoles that I have measured have 12mm lamp holder sockets. If there are other gauges that have 14mm sockets, please let me know.
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Re: Honda color coded wires?
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2022, 11:15:35 AM »

   For me it would depend purely on the load it was going to carry.

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Re: Honda color coded wires?
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2022, 12:54:57 PM »
Just measured an indicator wire and just slightly above 2 mm so I will go with the 1.0mm² thin wall
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