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« Reply #135 on: August 22, 2022, 06:24:08 PM »
You do realise that as the sprocket carrier came off it could have flipped the seal  ;D ;D

Just as a matter of interest when these seals come off they tend to revert back to whatever shape they were manufactured in, if you flip them so in effect the inside is out and the outside is in they will try and flip back to standard. Have you tried doing that? Just as an experiment.

I did Ken. I had that as a possibility. You can see from the bottom that it started to curl as the two parts came apart but the rest I had to get a pick under to remove it from the groove due to excess crap all round it (which may have saved it in all honesty). If you flip it inside out  as you suggest, it flips back round so the flat side is indeed against the hub in the groove.
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« Reply #136 on: August 22, 2022, 08:25:07 PM »
Ok. Argument settled.
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« Reply #137 on: August 22, 2022, 09:52:57 PM »
Unfortunately that means hub has to come back out then!

The hub did go in easily with flat side up, but I couldn't get it to go in the other way around, even with a generous amount of force with a soft mallet. Maybe more grease needed...


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« Reply #138 on: August 22, 2022, 10:17:14 PM »
Ohhhh and I'm back in the game  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #139 on: August 22, 2022, 11:27:17 PM »
Ohhhh and I'm back in the game  ;D ;D ;D



Pa haa haa haaa,spit of tea, Get in there Ken ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #140 on: August 23, 2022, 12:57:30 PM »
I keep wondering WHY did Honda cut down a normal O ring, did they find like Jiutz did that getting the carrier on using a round ring was difficult, it split the ring or forced it out as the hub went on? There has to be a reason, Honda don't do things like this for nothing.

Did they find it fouled and couldn't make the groove deeper as it would compromise it's strength? To me it still makes more sense that they trimmed the top of the ring, just enough to still get a seal but enough that it didn't stop the carrier either moving or being installed without any of the problems they must have found in order to have done this in the first place.

Why didn't they just use a thinner section O ring?

They may have put a flat on the ring so that it not only sat lower but resisted being forced out better as the carrier went on, in which case flat side down also makes sense.

This question is bugging the hell out of me.
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« Reply #141 on: August 23, 2022, 01:08:43 PM »
I should imagine that over he years the condition of the aaly degrades and so the fit is more difficult.  I can only pressume Ken, that when the bikes were new with nice smooth paint/ally etc the parts would hev slotted together nicely without the requirement of a smack with a hammer or even less than a swipe than is required these days to get the same pieces together. YOu're right though, Honda dont do 'difficult' so its a wonder that all are having such a faff but the application of the way it sits makes complete sense, its just a pig to do.

How's the workmate coming on anyway, I've booked a slot at the Geneva Motor show in the concept and best modified section. From what I gather, the press are eagerly awaiting snippets on its progress and conceptual design changes to announce to the market. ;) :D
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« Reply #142 on: August 23, 2022, 01:18:12 PM »
Still awaiting new bolts Roo, got the panel yesterday BTW, cheers. I wondered what all those Press fellows were doing camped on the front lawn. I keep having to shoo they away.

The bolts should arrive either later today or maybe tomorrow. Weather is looking ok ATM and I'm thinking of going for a blast on the 1300.

Always wanted to do Cheddar Gorge so I might pop down next year on the 1300 and have a ride round your area, if I do I'll pop in for a brew if that's ok.
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« Reply #143 on: August 23, 2022, 01:31:02 PM »
Ken it would be a pleasure, I’ve done my best to drop all these bits into folk who are near ish just to get a chance to meet a few folk on here and put names to avatars etc. it would be great to see you mate, the kettle never gets cold in our house so everyone’s always welcome.

It’s a bit of a trek from Manc but happy to put you up as we have a section of house that we are converting to air BnB after not being able to sell it as the markets crap and we have a quirky house. Stop in there and use it as a base to delve into Devon and Somerset, it’s not bad down here. Bit like Yorkshire but with more apples, silly buggers and sun

The roads aren’t too bad either, just a bit bumpy

I was at cheddar just yesterday having a wobble round and a brew.

Last stop on the way home saw temptation raise its head, I simply couldn’t argue on this occasion, I’m not a drinker these days but good cider or Taylor’s Landlord and I have to give in


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« Reply #144 on: August 25, 2022, 11:03:44 AM »
Got to meet Roo few weeks ago, did me a massive favour in getting the Hondaman ignition system in the US and even hand delivered to my door. Top bloke 👍😀

Does anyone know the oring size used on the front caliper mounts? I think it's 10x1.7?
https://www.cmsnl.com/products/o-ring_91259300000/


Thanks!
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« Reply #145 on: August 25, 2022, 12:36:26 PM »
You are correct with 10 x 1.7mm
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« Reply #146 on: August 28, 2022, 01:36:59 PM »
More sanity checks please!

Looking at this seal on the rear wheel, it's not supposed to be recessed? At least, I can get it on the locking ring.

Photo from teardown also isn't flush?

And the oring -  in front of the sprocket?

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« Reply #147 on: August 28, 2022, 02:17:04 PM »
Im sure the seal is supposed to be in the chromed plate that fits over

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« Reply #148 on: August 28, 2022, 02:30:17 PM »
Just checked the parts book and seal goes into chrome cover held on with sprocket nuts. Bearing should have a seal facing outwards, i usually use twin sealed anyway

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« Reply #149 on: August 28, 2022, 05:56:04 PM »
Yes, that makes more sense than my way 🤦

 

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