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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #315 on: August 02, 2023, 05:04:16 PM »
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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #316 on: August 03, 2023, 09:57:46 AM »
A bit more completed last night....got the clock lights working along with the dummy indicator lights and the full beam light. Ive ordered an aftermarket headlamp frame so i can drill holes in that to get the led indicators mounted - no idea how to do that yet as its different to my oem one....

On a side note mines now tax exempt and mot exempt....roo did explain a few weeks back but it was like water off a ducks back...i forgot everything he said...is there a procedure for doing this... ?

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« Reply #317 on: August 03, 2023, 10:35:13 AM »
A bit more completed last night....got the clock lights working along with the dummy indicator lights and the full beam light. Ive ordered an aftermarket headlamp frame so i can drill holes in that to get the led indicators mounted - no idea how to do that yet as its different to my oem one....

On a side note mines now tax exempt and mot exempt....roo did explain a few weeks back but it was like water off a ducks back...i forgot everything he said...is there a procedure for doing this... ?

If you have a full UK registration document & mark:-

You need the  Registration Document changed to Historical Class there is a way it will always work - the DVLA website does indicate you can do it at your local post office - this can be hit & miss.

Easiest way is to firstly get the bike insured fill out the standard taxation form (V10 )I think, fill in the change of taxation class on the V5 document, download from DVLA Mot exemption form. (V112)Post it to DVLA make sure you copy everything as they often do not send back your insurance certificate.

My new V5 came back inside 3 weeks - I tried to do it without my insurance cover - new V5 was returned without change of taxation class.


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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #318 on: August 03, 2023, 10:55:10 AM »
Thanks Ted.

So, first and foremost ive got to insure it? (its not on the road yet) obviously so ive not bothered....

I found this online https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/925057/v112-declaration-of-exemption-from-mot.pdf is that the one? assuming it is its a bit of a weird document in that i just give the reg and sign it...as if to say "yeah its all kosher..." !

1. Insure first.
2. Change state of V5
3. Delare it tax and MOT exempt

Oh it mentions taking a current MOT....that ive not got...ill go through my paperwork but i think ive got one from about 5 years ago when it was on the verge of being sold...

Does that sound right?
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« Reply #319 on: August 03, 2023, 12:20:02 PM »
You will not need an Mot just the completed V112- on the V5C registration document, first inside page on the left section1 "change my vehicle details" in the box headed Tax Class write "Historic Vehicle" in the blue section box.

If you have changed the colour complete that section. If you have a different frame or engine number complete that section but make sure you include some sort of proof of purchase of the item.

I have done this only twice now on my bikes with no issues - the DVLA site implies you do not need Insurance except in N.I. - never worked for me on my 400 tried it two ways via Post Office & DVLA no joy until I included Insurance Certificate.
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https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
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Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #320 on: August 03, 2023, 12:22:00 PM »
Wow - sounds almost too easy...! (the whole bike is oem) all original bar the electrical system (as we all know!) - many thanks....so i dont have to insure it yet? - dont really want to do that until i know its almost finished....theres a little way more to go...

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« Reply #321 on: August 03, 2023, 12:25:51 PM »
Wow - sounds almost too easy...! (the whole bike is oem) all original bar the electrical system (as we all know!) - many thanks....so i dont have to insure it yet? - dont really want to do that until i know its almost finished....theres a little way more to go...

I insured my bike when it was 95% done just to get the Theft Cover in case someone stole it - I sent photos to Insurance Company to get a basic level of assured value cover.
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Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
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Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #322 on: August 03, 2023, 03:31:12 PM »
You will not need an Mot just the completed V112- on the V5C registration document, first inside page on the left section1 "change my vehicle details" in the box headed Tax Class write "Historic Vehicle" in the blue section box.

If you have changed the colour complete that section. If you have a different frame or engine number complete that section but make sure you include some sort of proof of purchase of the item.

I have done this only twice now on my bikes with no issues - the DVLA site implies you do not need Insurance except in N.I. - never worked for me on my 400 tried it two ways via Post Office & DVLA no joy until I included Insurance Certificate.

You'd think these days with all insurance logged online they wouldn't need it anymore, the police know when you are or aren't insured so why not the DVLA, they use the same data bases.
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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #323 on: August 03, 2023, 10:39:36 PM »
Andy, measure the thread of where the front reflectors screw into the headlight bowl, I found a set with the same thread and bobbed mine in there. I’ll try to find the bill for them so you can get some should the mood take you…….

We can discuss Saturday……., what biscuits should we sample this weekend? Let me know and I’ll stop en route to sort out a purchase or are going to go for a mystery item and include cake into the mix???

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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #324 on: August 03, 2023, 11:45:54 PM »
They do white chocolate digestive now so you can revert to milky bar kid!

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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #325 on: August 04, 2023, 04:31:32 AM »
Ooo, do they now, they sound filthy!

Where from Bryan??


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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #326 on: August 04, 2023, 05:21:54 AM »
Mcvities mate, saw them in b&m i think, and tesco

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« Reply #327 on: August 04, 2023, 08:31:24 AM »
I got a box of Boarder Biscuits chambered! - bring some more of that filthy cake you brought last time!!

Ive got the V5 with me in the office today...looking at section 7 (changes to current vehicle) theres nothing about classic status in there....? there is one for "Tax Class" ? (would that be it?)
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« Reply #328 on: August 04, 2023, 09:21:53 AM »
Yes, Tax Class. Just take it to post office, no MOT or V112 or insurance needed (insurance only needed in NI) , done instantly on the spot, just remember to SORN it as soon as you get V5 back as its taxed for 12 months as part of the process and if its taxed, it must be insured, SORN it and it doesn't need to be insured (unless of course you're going to ride it on the road straight away)
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« Reply #329 on: August 04, 2023, 09:27:05 AM »
Ah - right - so thats the first stage then....so i have to wait for the V5 to come back to get the "no MOT" and "no need for tax" status...?

 

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