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Offline Bryanj

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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #105 on: September 26, 2022, 11:03:55 PM »
My fault for believing the man i got the engine from that it was rebuilt and fine!

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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #106 on: September 27, 2022, 08:58:38 AM »
My fault for believing the man i got the engine from that it was rebuilt and fine!

Don't beat yourself up about it Bryan I have started refering to the "PO" not Bryan's old 500 - its a 50 year old bike that prior to yourself had a bunch of owners.

Good news for me is so far no seized bolts to contend with as the engine has clearly been stripped down before.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2022, 10:53:14 AM by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) »
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Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #107 on: September 27, 2022, 04:49:04 PM »
I felt like Popeye after his spinach when I got up this morning,
 
I have removed the camshaft that was in superb condition - the cylinder head came off pretty easily only odd thing was when I was undoing the head nuts in order I thought the socket was slipping on the nuts  - it made such a strange clicking noise as the nuts undid for the first half turn or so. After removinmg all the nuts & washers I squirted plenty of releasing fluid along the gasket line. A few taps with my big rubber mallet and it let go same with the block.

Most fidly bit was getting enough slack in the cam chain after undoing the  drive gear to lift out the camshaft. Even now I have not worked out how I finally managed to get the chain off the gear so it would feed through so as to speak. I did have to have a coffee break to overcome that hurdle.

Some decent vertical scoring on a couple of the piston skirts - the engine knew I was going to to end up inside.
Crankcase splitting will have to wait until I have some floor space and have put stuff into storage.
Engine lift out within a week is my plan A.


.No 1 & 2 pistons by Macabe Thiele, on Flickr

Honda CB500 K1 (new pit dug out ready)
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #108 on: September 27, 2022, 05:04:06 PM »
Exciting times Ted! Never know what your going to find. Coffee/tea breaks essential.😁
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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #109 on: September 27, 2022, 07:21:33 PM »
I love stripping motors, it's the time when you get to piece together a bit of potential history of the engine. Bet you're loving it Ted.?Hope you've plenty of black 'sharpies' and resealable freezer bags to get that lot in and labelled up for later?

Dont forget, take more pictures than you think you have from every angle if you're not sure if you'll remember and the more coffee breaks the better..............with biscuits! Its the law! ;) 8)
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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #110 on: September 27, 2022, 08:49:30 PM »
Is that a score draw? Ted 2 Bike 2. 😁
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Offline McCabe-Thiele (Ted)

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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #111 on: September 27, 2022, 08:53:42 PM »
Is that a score draw? Ted 2 Bike 2. 😁

I guess it is yes!
My BiL said I would buy another bike - I told him naaaaah.
Honda CB500 K1 (new pit dug out ready)
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #112 on: September 27, 2022, 09:43:45 PM »
 ;D
Mornings are the invention of the devil!

1977 CB550F (current money pit!!)
2002 VFR800 VTEC (The Beloved)
1977 CB400F (the last money pit!)
1998 Ducati 748\853 conversion(sold :()
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Offline McCabe-Thiele (Ted)

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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #113 on: September 27, 2022, 10:14:07 PM »
I love stripping motors, it's the time when you get to piece together a bit of potential history of the engine. Bet you're loving it Ted.?Hope you've plenty of black 'sharpies' and resealable freezer bags to get that lot in and labelled up for later?

Dont forget, take more pictures than you think you have from every angle if you're not sure if you'll remember and the more coffee breaks the better..............with biscuits! Its the law! ;) 8)
Never used freezer bags I use clear plastic takeaway boxes and some odd plastic woven boxes for bulky stuff (Wendy threw them out)

Cam covers, cylinder head & block go in a big black plastic box with old towels or bubble wrap to stop damage. I try to  arrange them in some sort of order on my garage shelves.

Today I have been searching for the alternator rotor end bolt without success. I'm eyeing the Chihuahuas as suspects.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2022, 04:11:38 AM by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) »
Honda CB500 K1 (new pit dug out ready)
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #114 on: September 28, 2022, 01:26:45 AM »
The freezer bags are great as they have that slide fastening so you can open and close em as much as you like. I get them up to 18" long for the bigger bits. They come in mixed packs on flea bay for ablut 12 quid odd. I dont have the room for boxes so have everything separated into these bags and written on as to where and what it is and then goes into the main build box.

I have one tote for all new stuff and another full of the bagged bits ready to be cleaned, fettled, sworn at etc. they both sit under the bench when its up so works ok for me. i tried the take away containers but endedup with loads of lids and no bottoms so went back to the bags. Its the same place where I get those little tubs from that I sent that  snot in to you last month. Theyre god to and great in the sonic cleaner bath meaning you can do heaps all together without having to remember whats what after mixing it up.

I do have slight OCD though which might explain it. I haven't really done a huge amount over here yet, concentrating on cutting the hedge and getting the place tidy as i couldnt stand to look at it any more, it looked like someone had just stabbed it with a trimmer and I just HAD  to sort it!

I am a strange chap sometimes ;D ;D ;D
Mornings are the invention of the devil!

1977 CB550F (current money pit!!)
2002 VFR800 VTEC (The Beloved)
1977 CB400F (the last money pit!)
1998 Ducati 748\853 conversion(sold :()
1980 ish CB750KZ in a billion bits (need to get rid, anybody want one?))

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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #115 on: September 28, 2022, 03:27:23 AM »
What do you mean SOMETIMES???

If you fail to find it Ted I've got a couple lying around.
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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #116 on: September 28, 2022, 04:10:16 AM »
What do you mean SOMETIMES???

If you fail to find it Ted I've got a couple lying around.

Thanks Ken I'll let you know if its gone to Planet Biro.

Today I will be tidying up putting removed parts onto the garage shelves into some sort of order - if I had a cat there would be no room to swing it.

Roo I can see the benefits of bags I might start the change over to reduce space - strange how you can end up with lids that fit nowt.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2022, 04:15:47 AM by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) »
Honda CB500 K1 (new pit dug out ready)
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #117 on: September 28, 2022, 01:07:52 PM »
What do you mean SOMETIMES???


Well I mean roughly 23 out of the 24hrs in any day ;D ;)

If you fail to find it Ted I've got a couple lying around.
Mornings are the invention of the devil!

1977 CB550F (current money pit!!)
2002 VFR800 VTEC (The Beloved)
1977 CB400F (the last money pit!)
1998 Ducati 748\853 conversion(sold :()
1980 ish CB750KZ in a billion bits (need to get rid, anybody want one?))

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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #118 on: September 28, 2022, 06:45:26 PM »
Found it as you do when looking for something else (Crank alternator rotor bolt)!
« Last Edit: September 29, 2022, 08:52:55 PM by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) »
Honda CB500 K1 (new pit dug out ready)
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: My new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #119 on: September 30, 2022, 02:53:26 PM »
My younger brother came over this morning to give me a lift out of the engine.

The frame strip will be next before I split the crankcase  to give some room at the end of the bike ramp for engine work.

.engine out by Macabe Thiele, on Flickr
Honda CB500 K1 (new pit dug out ready)
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

 

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