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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #165 on: October 03, 2022, 01:21:55 PM »
I convinced the BIL to replace the primary chain in my other 500 when he had it apart a few months ago. I had a spare Kwack chain so I sold him that one, 2 days later he's saying he's going to buy a new genuine one from DS as the Kwack fails the tank track test, which is what I called the method when I discovered it many moons ago, he's adamant he can get the chain to touch along a lot of the links. A new chain will touch but it really needs to be forced, whereas an old one will touch without even trying. I spent 5 minutes telling him he must be wrong, he's adamant he's not. After a while I asked him, are you testing on a flat surface, yes, you do have the chain on it's edge like a tank track? Silence. An embarrassed few seconds later and he admits he's been testing it lying on it's side, puts it on it's edge and of course it refuses to touch links. I wonder about him sometimes.

Fowlers has some in stock Ted. Cheap as well, sure they were dearer last time I bought a couple.
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #166 on: October 03, 2022, 02:39:57 PM »
Too late ordered one from MSP - it was a couple of quid cheaper than in March 2021 !!
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #167 on: October 03, 2022, 03:17:56 PM »
Same price as Fowlers?
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #168 on: October 03, 2022, 05:51:55 PM »
Same price as Fowlers?

£57.34 including VAT & delivery.
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #169 on: October 03, 2022, 06:44:24 PM »
The casing that I am dismantling has crank codes BAAAA.
The mains coded A are Green bearings, no code at the moment for (B) mains 1.

The donor casing I have to use has crank codes AABBB.

Looks like I will have fun sorting out the new combination.
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #170 on: October 03, 2022, 07:06:05 PM »
Green, Green, Brown, Brown, Brown.

That's the biggest shell allowance for the crankcase coding, A can only have had Yellow or Green from the factory, B can only have had Green or Brown. So chose the thickest of the 2 colours available and run it in carefully.
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« Reply #171 on: October 03, 2022, 08:55:03 PM »
Thanks Ken I've just parceled up my forks for Philpots - courier collect on Thursday as I'm not at home all day until then.

Awaiting price for frame powder coating - I quite fancy dark brown or gloss black.
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #172 on: October 03, 2022, 10:48:28 PM »
BROWN...................are you sure? :o
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #173 on: October 04, 2022, 12:04:18 AM »
You do realise that if you go with brown you'll have people saying that's a really shit colour mate  ;D ;D ;D And they'd be right.

I've seen a couple of frames when going to pick my bits up from the powder coaters, one was Candy Blue and the other was Candy Purple like the old Fords, Aubergine I think it was called. Utterly stunning the pair of them, I was gobsmakced by how nice the blue one was, I even convinced myself to have mine done in that colour it was so nice. However it wouldn't suit the rest of the paintwork so I talked myself out of it.

I'm seriously considering having the 1300 frame done in Candy Apple Red, they did a model with a post office red frame in 2007, always liked it. Plus my 1300 is Pearlescent white with Candy red inserts so it would go really well with it.
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #174 on: October 04, 2022, 12:07:59 AM »
Same price as Fowlers?

£57.34 including VAT & delivery.

£51.52 from Fowlers Ted. £48 if you can find a Kwack dealer to order one for you and you pick it up. I got mine to order me 3 so the petrol cost was split 3 ways, 15 miles there and 15 back and went on my 1300 so less than a gallon used.
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #175 on: October 04, 2022, 10:21:52 AM »
Same price as Fowlers?

£57.34 including VAT & delivery.

£51.52 from Fowlers Ted. £48 if you can find a Kwack dealer to order one for you and you pick it up. I got mine to order me 3 so the petrol cost was split 3 ways, 15 miles there and 15 back and went on my 1300 so less than a gallon used.

By the time I've driven to Borrowash found somewhere to park returning 22 mpg in my 3 litre Jeep it's cheaper to pay postage. Derby itself is not well served by Motor Cycle Dealers like they were in the 1960's.
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #176 on: October 04, 2022, 02:48:47 PM »
Same price as Fowlers?

£57.34 including VAT & delivery.

£51.52 from Fowlers Ted. £48 if you can find a Kwack dealer to order one for you and you pick it up. I got mine to order me 3 so the petrol cost was split 3 ways, 15 miles there and 15 back and went on my 1300 so less than a gallon used.

By the time I've driven to Borrowash found somewhere to park returning 22 mpg in my 3 litre Jeep it's cheaper to pay postage. Derby itself is not well served by Motor Cycle Dealers like they were in the 1960's.

Ted - Remember Palin's Motors the Honda dealer?
Are Bob Minions still going?
One day I'll have the time to restore it, not just talk and dream....

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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #177 on: October 04, 2022, 02:50:35 PM »
I got my 500 parts book from a shop in Derby, I'd ridden down with the future missus and I'd bought and asked for so many parts that he asked if I was interested in buying a parts book to make it easier, cost me £5 and I still have it, it's really battered and tatty now and pages have come loose but I'd never swap it. It's even got some prices hand written against part numbers, which make me smile when I see them and compare them to todays prices.

Shop was a main Honda dealer, somewhere close to the city centre IIRC. I may recognise the name if you know it. Palins? maybe

OMG I posted that without reading Tims post. Yep, Palins is correct.
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« Reply #178 on: October 04, 2022, 03:41:27 PM »
I got my 500 parts book from a shop in Derby, I'd ridden down with the future missus and I'd bought and asked for so many parts that he asked if I was interested in buying a parts book to make it easier, cost me £5 and I still have it, it's really battered and tatty now and pages have come loose but I'd never swap it. It's even got some prices hand written against part numbers, which make me smile when I see them and compare them to todays prices.

Shop was a main Honda dealer, somewhere close to the city centre IIRC. I may recognise the name if you know it. Palins? maybe

OMG I posted that without reading Tims post. Yep, Palins is correct.

There may have been two Honda Dealers as Bob Minion was a Honda Dealer for many decades 40 (plus firstly on Park St then London Rd) as was Samways when they were on the corner of Nuns Street & Mill Street before moving onto Ashbourne Road as Pedal Cycle only dealers they closed completely about 3/4 years ago.

I used to look into Samways showroom window looking at the new Honda CX500 for sale.
I have no memory of Palins being Honda though they may have replaced Samways.
Bob Minions is still going I think it's a son of Lionel Minion or Bob's that runs the site - now Royal Enfield & Royal Alloy.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2022, 06:10:36 PM by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) »
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #179 on: October 04, 2022, 03:52:20 PM »
Palins were definitely a main Honda dealer at one time. Would have been around 1976-7 when I was there, for some reason Osmaston Road keeps nagging me as the address, is that correct?
Kids in a the back seat cause accidents.
Accidents in the back seat cause kids.

 

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