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Re: Has anyone used these coils?
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2024, 11:40:37 AM »
I found some similar ones on e-bay for my 500 they work just fine except the distance between the mounting points was about 5-10 mm shorter. I just fitted a shorort link bracket to make them fit - mine were branded as Hendler from a firm near Uttoxter, Staffs.
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Re: Has anyone used these coils?
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2024, 11:50:35 AM »
Expect wiring will differ in color and male connectors where you need female and/or vice versa.

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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2024, 11:55:02 AM »
Good point DR I had to switch the polarity as well to suit the negative earth - can't remeber if I had to change any bullet connectors.
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Re: Has anyone used these coils?
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2024, 11:59:42 AM »
Thanks, but im not concerned about making new brackets, thats not my issue, I’m just wondering how easy it is to fit new spark plug caps to the leads?

I found some similar ones on e-bay for my 500 they work just fine except the distance between the mounting points was about 5 mm shorter. I just fitted a shorort link bracket to make them fit - mine were branded as Hedler from a firm near Uttoxter, Staffs.
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Re: Has anyone used these coils?
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2024, 12:14:43 PM »
The caps just screw into the HT leads if you have the Caps with a screw in fitting like the originals. this link is for the ones I purchased just realised you are looking at the same item.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151925589049

Theses were mine plenty of HT length so you can fit them easily, looks like the same supplier except the name Hendler no longer shown.
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Re: Has anyone used these coils?
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2024, 02:07:44 PM »
Thanks Ted.

Yes same item, as recommended by you in this thread!

Re: spark plug caps, thanks for advice and are these ones any good?

I haven't got the bike with me at the moment.

Im pretty sure this one is correct for 1 & 4

2 x XD05F
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266722303334


https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CB550K-1976-USA/pattern-parts/part_332941/


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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2024, 03:43:23 PM »
My 400 came with new looking brown coloured NGK resistor type caps already fitted - they are substantial with the NGK moulded into the cap in brown. Two straight, two angled.

Those black ones look fake to me as the branding does not look right somehow - see how different they are to the DS ones in their photo. They look more like car ones with the cheap white paint on the logo.

The genuine NGK ones are quite expensive iirc.

If you look at the DS ones although in Black the NGK markings are like mine cast into the moulding.
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2024, 03:47:26 PM »
Funny you say that, as I took a screen shot of the below from David Silver last year, says aftermarket, but marked NGK, and they were red, now I can't find the red ones, only black on their website;

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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2024, 03:52:24 PM »
Yes those Brown ones look really shiney compared to mine that are a slightly duller finsh as well as a different shade of brown - might be NGK make different quality caps for different markets.

As Bryan fitted mine I suspect they are the real McCoy.PXL_20240415_145642823 by Macabe Thiele, on Flickr

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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2024, 04:03:31 PM »
thanks, looks same moulding as this one, albeit different colour

https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/graphics/parts/30700MW3000P_large.jpg
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Re: Has anyone used these coils?
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2024, 04:09:45 PM »
Similar but slightly different markings with SBF05-R

This will make you smile my angled ones I have just noticed are marked SBF05 not only is there no "R" but the NGK branding is also painted white wtf?

The straight caps have a pair of slots moulded in - presumably to fit a tool for pulling off the caps - my angled ones do not but being angled easier to remove without pulling on the HT lead.

Might be I have two genuine & two aftermarket - a Guru here will know! ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2024, 04:18:22 PM »
Thanks, this explains why I cant find genuine angles ones without the NGK painted white, I have emailed DS!
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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2024, 05:24:18 PM »
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Re: Has anyone used these coils?
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2024, 05:30:12 PM »
Funny you say that, as I took a screen shot of the below from David Silver last year, says aftermarket, but marked NGK, and they were red, now I can't find the red ones, only black on their website;



They are called aftermarket because they are different to the original fitment. Original plugcaps had those horrible metal shrouds which shorted like crazy when it rained. Were original caps supplied by Nippon Denso?
DSS wouldn't sell fake NGK plug caps deliberately,  I'm sure. EBay sellers are a different matter. 🤔
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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2024, 05:40:17 PM »
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