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Buying replacement rear shock absorbers for 500 k1.
« on: November 06, 2022, 03:05:58 PM »
Although my rear dampers work cosmetically they are not in great condition - chrome top covers rusted, springs rusty, wrench marks on lower body adjuster.

Toying with buying an aftermarket version that will fit - so far only found these - they look a cheap finish  in the photo any pointers please for something closer to the originals?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262974179765

Honda CB500 K1 (new pit dug out ready)
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2022, 03:17:51 PM »
They look OK Ted but you pay for what you get with suspension,dont forget that. Ive gone aftermarket as the quality is better but like I say, you pay for what you get. The YSS ones, although not visually correct have a good right up and you can find them new from around £100. Go for the best you can,you cant compromise on 'danglers' so do the reading and get the best that suits your needs andfits in well.
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Re: Buying replacement rear shock absorbers for 500 k1.
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2022, 03:41:54 PM »
I had heard not good reports of those type Ted, Hagons are good but may be a bit long as they seem to "standardize" the length for all the fours

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Re: Buying replacement rear shock absorbers for 500 k1.
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2022, 03:53:28 PM »
Just found these pretty close in appearance to the originals ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274378003616?hash=item3fe23414a0:g:nJAAAOSw-i9ezOoV
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Re: Buying replacement rear shock absorbers for 500 k1.
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2022, 04:06:02 PM »
They are terrible Ted, dont do it.

Cant go wrong with Hagon but like what Bryan said.
Basically the more you pay the better they get in general but always check spec.  The bikes that the ones you show are listed as fitting, all vary somewhat in weight, having or giving differing performance on what bike you put them on. Thats a bit vauge for me tbhand screems of poor quality, nevr mind the price. Realistically you want a shock thats for your bike not somthing there or there abouts. It'll probably be an awful ride ifyou dont and or restrict what you do on the bike.  Just get quality over visual correctness, thats just me and  hasnt let me down on anything Ive owned but Iappreciate originailty and the need to keep things Honda.
Everyones different but for me its performance over looking right when fitting suspension on bikes.
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Re: Buying replacement rear shock absorbers for 500 k1.
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2022, 04:21:48 PM »
Or thhttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224109172004?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D1747d77f627b40dc8ea8f20c4e370870%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D274378003616%26itm%3D224109172004%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Adc659db0-5dee-11ed-b068-3654884e94a1%7Cparentrq%3A4dbddf041840aa722438a629fff7052a%7Ciid%3A1ese


Seems a lot of them are 15mm longer than the originals.

 Any links to Hagon or YSS as they do not seem to be listed for the 500 ?
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Honda CB500 K1 (new pit dug out ready)
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2022, 04:38:03 PM »
Pretty much the same unit Ted.
Cross ref which bikes have the same shock on them as yours through CMS, I bet the 250 didnt have the 500 shocks on it, it would ave been like  pogo stick! Likewise the 500 would have a really soft back end with 250 shocks on it....sure;y. Happy to be educated but its spring rate, rising spring rate, spring load, rebound, compression; you know?  That spread of bikes is very big for one unit to work optimally on all of them

See what I mean?
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1977 CB550F (current money pit!!)
2002 VFR800 VTEC (The Beloved)
1977 CB400F (the last money pit!)
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2022, 04:39:25 PM »
Get off ebay and google manufacturers, stockists and honda hoarders, you may get lucky. I only use fleabay as a last resort as a lot of stuff on there is pure 'cannon fodder'.
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1977 CB550F (current money pit!!)
2002 VFR800 VTEC (The Beloved)
1977 CB400F (the last money pit!)
1998 Ducati 748\853 conversion(sold :()
1980 ish CB750KZ in a billion bits (need to get rid, anybody want one?))

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Re: Buying replacement rear shock absorbers for 500 k1.
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2022, 05:12:02 PM »
Ted, I can't advise on shocks but I can't see how a pair of shocks like this:
https://www.squaremotorcycleparts.co.uk/products/chrome-rear-shock-absorbers-honda-cb500-cb-500-1971-1976
can be any good for £55. Maybe I'm just a bit cynical..... ???

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Re: Buying replacement rear shock absorbers for 500 k1.
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2022, 06:13:19 PM »
Who knows the true CP of things?
I bought a Radio Controlled new Seiko Wall clock on e-bay for £14.00 a couple of years ago. The same clock was £56 at Argos same model number.

I don't think the business seller was making a loss.
Honda CB500 K1 (new pit dug out ready)
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Re: Buying replacement rear shock absorbers for 500 k1.
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2022, 06:24:17 PM »
Who knows the true CP of things?
I bought a Radio Controlled new Seiko Wall clock on e-bay for £14.00 a couple of years ago. The same clock was £56 at Argos same model number.

I don't think the business seller was making a loss.

Are you sure that it's a genuine Seiko though, not a Chinese copy?
Lots of fakes out there.
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Re: Buying replacement rear shock absorbers for 500 k1.
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2022, 06:30:58 PM »
It keeps perfect time purchased when we moved back home after the fire in July 2018.
Honda CB500 K1 (new pit dug out ready)
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2022, 07:30:41 PM »
Is it a 4 wheel drive Seiko and can it handle the jumps well on rough terrain? ;)
Mornings are the invention of the devil!

1977 CB550F (current money pit!!)
2002 VFR800 VTEC (The Beloved)
1977 CB400F (the last money pit!)
1998 Ducati 748\853 conversion(sold :()
1980 ish CB750KZ in a billion bits (need to get rid, anybody want one?))

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Re: Buying replacement rear shock absorbers for 500 k1.
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2022, 08:15:15 PM »
Here you go Ted, here's a post I put on a couple of days ago. You won't go wrong with a pair of TEC's for the money.
Cheap shocks are really not worth the money, most look awful after six months and are like pogo sticks when the going is anything but smooth:

His contact details are David Hunt, 01932 786030 (evenings and weekends or leave a message).He is the southern rep for TEC.
Last time I was at Kempton Park I noticed he had a single set for the 400 and another set for the 500 (with the half chrome shrouds). If you need a set get in quick!
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Re: Buying replacement rear shock absorbers for 500 k1.
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2022, 10:18:20 PM »
I've used TEC shocks on my standard 750k2 and 500k2 and they are good quality. I've had the 750s on for about 7 years and damping is just starting to go - and considering the cost thats not bad. I  have Hagon's on my CR750 Rep and they are better for a sportier application but not as comfortable. TEC look standard.
Bought the set for the 500 and they sent the longer 750 units and as it was just before Christmas (and I wanted to move the build on over Christmas), I rang them up the morning they were closing down for the holiday break, they sent a set out next day delivery and said 'just send the 750 set back after Christmas' great service I thought.
https://www.tecbikeparts.com/product/cb500f-cb550f-k-tec-chrome-shock-absorbers/
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