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Re: Tank repairer recommendations
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2022, 06:00:48 PM »
With the right spoon the filler neck will not be touched.

The bloke who did my 300CRD took a photo & the laptop program told him what spoons to use with an animation for the process.

Over the years I've used them a few times it was a franchise so the more experienced the person the better the job. Last time it was a different bloke hence the lower charge as it was not 100%.
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2022, 06:25:02 PM »
Yes Ted as the aim is to lever off the spine on the tank near to dent site as fulcrum as it won't matter if you mark it, shouldn't lever from filler as to far away to control in this instance anyway.

Think there was good version of this on American wheeler dealers recently with AA using long handle spoon type for flanks of, I thought BMW going from rear up into void above above  in front of rear wheel. They were straight from memory, but about 3ft long for remote access.

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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2022, 06:32:31 PM »
The biggest problem levering is making sure you don't put any pressure on the edge of the tank filler hole - that area is quite weak.  I like Ken's bent hook solution for cheap starters - at least you can grind them off fairly easily. and you can put them through a bigger plate to provide a larger glue area.  If it was a long nail it could be formed into a ring and brazed to stop it opening up (before you fasten it to the tank of course!).
Strange that your tank Roo has a slot in the underside of the flap - mine doesn't but the cap has a fold over handle piece.

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Cool, cheers for that. I did have a exploratory poke about should I have to fashion something up. The tank should have a good key for the glue gun thingy as the tank was blasted the etched to stop it rusting so it’s dead rough to the touch.

Just about to get into the Cardiff international arena to watch a gig tonight so might be radio silence for a bit……………….and tinnitus tomorrow

That slot is to keep the filler cap in the shut position I can only presume as when tight it lines up spot on. Quite good I thought.  The plate under the bracket for the lock is to accept a threaded bar that clips into a button on the flap, a quick release affair but a good swerve as I had no lock when I got her.

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Re: Tank repairer recommendations
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2022, 07:23:20 PM »
Strange that your tank Roo has a slot in the underside of the flap - mine doesn't but the cap has a fold over handle piece.

Ian

Just about to get into the Cardiff international arena to watch a gig tonight so might be radio silence for a bit……………….and tinnitus tomorrow

That slot is to keep the filler cap in the shut position I can only presume as when tight it lines up spot on. Quite good I thought.  The plate under the bracket for the lock is to accept a threaded bar that clips into a button on the flap, a quick release affair but a good swerve as I had no lock when I got her.

Not sure if it's just an F Vs K3 difference or earlier Vs later. Ian's tank on the F has a raised lip around most of the filler hole that only allows the handle on the tank to lay flat when it is in the closed position. Same result: prevents the top flap closing unless fully closed.

Careful with the hearing. Biking and loud concerts are almost certainly to blame for my damage and tinnitus.

Also interested to see if you get dent resolved as my K3 tank has a couple of simple dents with no creasing.
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« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2022, 08:13:48 PM »
Roo, I try to go on personal recommendations for services like paint a chrome etc. When my garage roof caved in a few years ago the asbestos/cement sheets landed on the alloy tank of my Triton putting three dents into it. Two of the dents had sharp creases, the type that are really hard to get out. One of these was on the knee indent at the rear of the tank just next to the rear curve so really difficult to get out. Considering the tank was made by the Tank Shop in Dumfries and was made using 2mn thick alloy with baffles inside I really thought it would be scrap. A mate had used a company called Motorcycle Dent Removal and raved about them. I called them and they said they could do it. I sent it to them and what I got back was better than new! I don't know how they do it but obviously not by spot welding to pull the dents out. They hadn't opened the tank either by grinding the welds off. They keep their techniques secret, all I know is it worked. The tank came back a few weeks later highly polished. Your tank will obviously be different being steel and you'll be painting it afterwards.
Their number is 07968360225. www.motorcycledentremoval.co.uk
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« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2022, 08:47:29 PM »
You legend thanks that’s brilliant. I might have a go myself but time is short at the ku due to work so my fiddling time is quite restrictive and heaps to fiddle with anyway accross the ranch so thats a great lead, cheers!

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« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2022, 09:14:33 PM »
You could always take it there and go for a ride on the steam train

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« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2022, 01:19:48 AM »
Ooo, the devils punch bowl on the way to Grosmont n Whitby, fond memories of getting steamed on Theakstons OP  being pulled by Evening Star………what a loco


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« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2022, 09:16:01 AM »
Heartbeat country.... best TV show ever! I have some friends from Tasmania and the Moors were top of their 'UK places to see' list, due to Heartbeat being exported to Oz!
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« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2022, 02:49:29 PM »
True fact but I've driven Evening Star, my Dad was a train driver and the last in service journey of Evening Star was pulling a goods train, full of coal I think, it was well advertised and every station was packed, every bridge was packed, my Dad was the driver that day. If you ever see any pics of it you'll see him on the footboard.

I got to drive a lot of the famous locos, Evening Star, Britannia, Oliver Cromwell, Mallard, Flying Scotsman to name those that just pop into my head. Found a pic on the web of me on the footboard and my Dad driving coming out of Edgeley Shed in Stockport. I was around 13 or so when it was taken. I think the engine was called a Black Five for some reason, nope, just looked it up and it's still around, it's an LMS Stanier 8F, it's currently in Kidderminster.

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« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2022, 09:10:56 AM »
Brilliant nostalgia and picture Ken! Mallard still holds the speed record for a steam loco I think?
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« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2022, 09:21:48 AM »
Agree, must have been quite something for you Ken to experience that era from such close position. And having a dad as engine driver too.

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« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2022, 09:54:01 AM »
Even now I would love to ride a footplate. My brother is a proper ‘Ned’ so I was dragged to  from every station in the land as a kid. We spent many a weekend hanging off bridges to catch a glimpse of the dragon coming out of Harrogate passed Hornbeam Park spinning up and coughing red cherries high into the sky. Loved it.still do

Still find them fascinating and they simply make me smile…………just like bikes


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« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2022, 10:44:13 AM »
Great memories, Ken. And what a privilege. I can’t help but be a little envious.

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« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2022, 11:30:46 AM »
I used Andy @ http://www.motorcycledentremoval.co.uk/
He's not too far away from Mathewsons  in a purpose built modern building next to his house.
My 750K0 fell over and dented the tank, which I had previously had painted so I was gutted ...bunged into into a box in shame and just handed the box over to Andy. Went and picked it up again a couple of weeks later and both myself and Andy couldn't find where the dent had been. He isn't cheap and is secretive about his techniques he has developed but man does he do a good job. Highly recommended.

On another tank related issue I have two spare rare tanks, which are pretty nice and dent free but holed at the bottom (Bomber and CB250K0) Even though I don't particularly need them for my own bikes, I am going to remove the bottoms, repair the holes etc and then have a go at silicon-bronze MIG brazing them after some TIG to initially tack them together. Really excited to try MIG brazing with silicon bronze wire and pure argon shielding. Evidently it's the preferred method on modern car body panel repair as you can braze straight onto zinc coated steel. My new MIG has adjustable voltage and pulse so hopefully it won't end in tears ... but who knows :-[ Both tanks have been empty of fuel for about 35 years without cap fitted ...so no explosion danger at least.

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