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90165-323-000 caliper bolts
« on: February 17, 2023, 04:54:10 PM »
Both my calliper bolts have lost whatever finish they had from the factory - they seem pretty pricey at £20.84 for a pair including postage.

Is there a safe alternative bolt I could use?
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Re: 90165-323-000 caliper bolts
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2023, 05:29:36 PM »
I have used allen bolts in the past but they are black

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Re: 90165-323-000 caliper bolts
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2023, 05:36:00 PM »
I have used allen bolts in the past but they are black

I assume they need to be made of the right grade of steel what size thread are they M10 -75 mm long  the originals look to be 73 mm ?
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Re: 90165-323-000 caliper bolts
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2023, 05:53:06 PM »
Cant remember Ted, i had to buy 10 so i will look for you

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Re: 90165-323-000 caliper bolts
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2023, 05:58:43 PM »
Thanks Bryan - has anyone here used hot or cold blueing on bolts to passivate the steel?

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Re: 90165-323-000 caliper bolts
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2023, 07:07:51 PM »
I bought a couple a few years ago, but was disappointed with the finish, so cleaned up the old ones and fitted new washers instead.
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Re: 90165-323-000 caliper bolts
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2023, 08:29:40 PM »
I replaced mine with stainless steel Ted, the originals are not stamped with any high tensile marks AFAIK.

However you need metric fine bolts and a 14mm head for best fit.
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Re: 90165-323-000 caliper bolts
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2023, 08:37:22 PM »
I replaced mine with stainless steel Ted, the originals are not stamped with any high tensile marks AFAIK.

However you need metric fine bolts and a 14mm head for best fit.

What pitch is that Ken?
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Re: 90165-323-000 caliper bolts
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2023, 08:53:27 PM »

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Re: 90165-323-000 caliper bolts
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2023, 09:29:34 PM »
Some reference charts here Ted

https://www.mudgefasteners.com/thread-pitch-charts

Thanks for that what I could do with if such a thing exists is a sort or template tool  that I can screw a bolt into so it will tell me the size & pitch.
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Re: 90165-323-000 caliper bolts
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2023, 09:32:07 PM »
It's 1.25 pith Ted, you can get them with a 14mm head from here. The heads polished and they look very nice, don't forget to get a washer for each bolt.

https://www.stainlessmiddleton.co.uk/32908-metric-fine-bolts-setscrews

Can't remember the length but 80mm sounds familiar for some reason.

Get a thread pitch gauge Ted.
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Re: 90165-323-000 caliper bolts
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2023, 08:46:08 AM »
I did buy a thread pitch gauge during lock down - put it somewhere safe - it's missing in action in my garage. It was probably too cheap to be of any use as bolts never seemed to fit in the threads but on them.
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Re: 90165-323-000 caliper bolts
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2023, 09:12:49 AM »
Get used to correctly using the pitch gauge, use a 6mm bolt, they are 1.00 pitch, study how the teeth on the gauge sit inside the threads on the bolt, if it’s correct you’ll find it resists being pulled sideways as the teeth grab the threads. Try using the 0.90 and you’ll see it doesn’t fit into the threads but rather than above them and pulling sideways is easy as there is no grip.

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Re: 90165-323-000 caliper bolts
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2023, 01:44:56 PM »
Get used to correctly using the pitch gauge, use a 6mm bolt, they are 1.00 pitch, study how the teeth on the gauge sit inside the threads on the bolt, if it’s correct you’ll find it resists being pulled sideways as the teeth grab the threads. Try using the 0.90 and you’ll see it doesn’t fit into the threads but rather than above them and pulling sideways is easy as there is no grip.

Very handy tool to have, used mine thousands of times

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