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Re: Some Minor Issues to Sort
« Reply #60 on: May 08, 2023, 07:50:28 PM »
I'm guessing the bike originally had plain bearings so they might be suffering from water ingress issues?
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Re: Some Minor Issues to Sort
« Reply #61 on: May 08, 2023, 10:37:41 PM »
If the bearings were ever notchy they'll still be notchy but as you've loosened them off the whole of the front end will now be moving instead. Fit taper rollers is my advice.

The Hondas these days have the headstock bearings pre-tensioned when you fit them, torque the headstock adjuster ring down to 18lbs, move the headstock a few times to seat the bearings, release the pressure then re-torque to 18lbs, you then fit the top yoke and get a spring balance and hook it to the top yoke, it should take approx 2.2-3.3 ftlbs to get the top yoke to move from central, by hand this feels quite stiff if I'm honest but when the forks/wheel goes in the bars move quite freely. Most people think it's too tight and slacken off the headstock bearings but that then leaves them too loose when everything is fitted.
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Re: Some Minor Issues to Sort
« Reply #62 on: May 08, 2023, 10:44:37 PM »
Pyramid parts for some decent branded kits at a sensible price if you go for taper rollers I fitted them to my 500.
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Re: Some Minor Issues to Sort
« Reply #63 on: May 08, 2023, 10:48:39 PM »
Depends Ted on who's bearings are in the kit, far too many with cheap chinese ones. If they are Toyo, NTN, Natchi or SBK they are good bearings.

You also need a kit with the spacer included.

Somewhere there is a thread with all the info needed, including bearing sizes.
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Re: Some Minor Issues to Sort
« Reply #64 on: May 08, 2023, 11:09:52 PM »
Mine were NTN iirc I did post when I bought a kit for my 400. They also provide a better seal attached to a shim.

I shimmed mine to fit leaving sufficient top thread on my 500. The 400 has only half a kit from a different supplier I will remedy that in the future.

I want to keep the 400 as a runner until the 500 is completed - then I will return to tweaking a few bits on the 400 before I sell her or hit my expiry date - I was 75 at the weekend. lol

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Re: Some Minor Issues to Sort
« Reply #65 on: May 08, 2023, 11:14:37 PM »
NTN are very good bearings Ted, good kit that one. Allballs kits are made in China, I'd rather have notchy bearings TBH.
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Re: Some Minor Issues to Sort
« Reply #66 on: May 09, 2023, 09:59:48 AM »
Mine were NTN iirc I did post when I bought a kit for my 400. They also provide a better seal attached to a shim.

I shimmed mine to fit leaving sufficient top thread on my 500. The 400 has only half a kit from a different supplier I will remedy that in the future.

I want to keep the 400 as a runner until the 500 is completed - then I will return to tweaking a few bits on the 400 before I sell her or hit my expiry date - I was 75 at the weekend. lol
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Re: Some Minor Issues to Sort
« Reply #67 on: May 09, 2023, 10:02:06 AM »
You smooth talker Roo - you've still got it Babes. 8) 8) 8)
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Re: Some Minor Issues to Sort
« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2023, 10:02:57 AM »



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Re: Some Minor Issues to Sort
« Reply #69 on: May 09, 2023, 10:07:21 AM »
If there’s enough ibuprofen in this world I hope to be still tinkering and riding at your age Ted.😁😁
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Re: Some Minor Issues to Sort
« Reply #70 on: May 09, 2023, 11:37:50 AM »
Brufen is bad for the waistline mate, i use co codamol!

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« Reply #71 on: May 09, 2023, 12:09:54 PM »
Brufen is bad for the waistline mate, i use co codamol!
😳😳 I’m lucky! That’s one thing I haven’t had to be concerned about. Co codamol? Haven’t tried it.
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Re: Some Minor Issues to Sort
« Reply #72 on: May 09, 2023, 12:36:37 PM »
Ibuprofen like most medications can have side effects - it's hard on your liver & kidneys if taken regularly as well as it's well known possible effects on your stomach. I believe it is not recommended if you are on heart medication.

Greatest help to get me riding my bike is nice warm weather - the sunshine lifts my mood plus lubricates my joints somehow.

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Re: Some Minor Issues to Sort
« Reply #73 on: May 09, 2023, 05:01:28 PM »
Ibruprofen can cause ulcers hence the only with food so larger waistline.
Co codamol is a mix of codine and paracecamol, normal ratio 8/500, i have been known to use 27/500!

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Re: Some Minor Issues to Sort
« Reply #74 on: May 09, 2023, 05:18:32 PM »
It’s like ‘Painkillers Anonymous’  on here today!


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