cb750 K0 1970

[Toko_Jo]

So after all this chatter about the shape of a letter B I personally do not think it alters the value of your bike one iota - I would sell it on the basis of what is recorded on the V5 & the bike itself.
At £9500 it looks a great bike - why pay say £2-3k more for a frame that is probably older & rustier inside.

If it looks like a Duck, Quacks like a Duck - its a Duck I say.

Don't get me started on started on USA model v UK model they are all made in Japan - they are all imports too much talk trying to justify daft prices I think.
Not that you could ride one blindfold but who could tell the difference in the saddle - some wine buff probably eh!  We all know what they are.

So if it was a re- shelled 1960's Mini Cooper S without the original VIN plate would you be saying the same ...don't think so.

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

A re-shelled Mini would be fine by me as long as it had an EN40B crank that's the important bit plus the 11 stud head.
The newer the shell the better - wind up windows heated rear screen what's not to like.
That said the BMW version is soooh much better.

Mk 2 rear lamps & grille sound.👍👍👍

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

That said K0, K1,K2, K3 am I wrong to think they were improvements along the way by Honda?

[Toko_Jo]

That said K0, K1,K2, K3 am I wrong to think they were improvements along the way by Honda?

Depends how you define 'improvements'. The sandcast/K0 were the prettiest IMHO. Personally, I loved the look of the  iconic Duck-tail K0 seat but there again it had dodgy foam blocks, which sag . K0/K1 HM300 pipes had a lovelier sound but more antisocial  and the beautiful  Candy Ruby Red and Candy Blue/Green colour schemes were both sadly dropped after K1 (Blue/green after K0 IIRC) . K0 painted airbox looked lovely but cracked  badly.. later black air box was more practical but looks bland in comparison.  Mark Paris's book (Hondaman) details a lot of the engine change 'improvements'.  Whether the dodgy bigger valves with suspect guides plus PD carbs on the later models was an improvement, is doubtful engineering wise.

[royhall]

That said K0, K1,K2, K3 am I wrong to think they were improvements along the way by Honda?

Not really Ted, just marketing really. People will always upgrade to the latest model. There were improvements along the way but mostly minor, and some years the only change was colour.

[Nurse Julie]

That said K0, K1,K2, K3 am I wrong to think they were improvements along the way by Honda?

Depends how you define 'improvements'. The sandcast/K0 were the prettiest IMHO. Personally, I loved the look of the  iconic Duck-tail K0 seat but there again it had dodgy foam blocks, which sag . K0/K1 HM300 pipes had a lovelier sound but more antisocial  and the beautiful  Candy Ruby Red and Candy Blue/Green colour schemes were both sadly dropped after K1 (Blue/green after K0 IIRC) . K0 painted airbox looked lovely but cracked  badly.. later black air box was more practical but looks bland in comparison.  Mark Paris's book (Hondaman) details a lot of the engine change 'improvements'.  Whether the dodgy bigger valves with suspect guides plus PD carbs on the later models was an improvement, is doubtful engineering wise.

The Candy Ruby Red was available in the UK and europe on the K2 which run up to 1975 and then we had the K6. The Candy Blue Green, was available on the K1 in the USA and Japan but not on the K1 for UK models.
Next time Mark Paris writes a book, he's agreed to my suggestion to put a note at the front saying his info is only relevant to USA models as it confuses the hell out of everyone in the rest of the world with non USA models.

[Nurse Julie]

That said K0, K1,K2, K3 am I wrong to think they were improvements along the way by Honda?

Not really Ted, just marketing really. People will always upgrade to the latest model. There were improvements along the way but mostly minor, and some years the only change was colour.

I don't think it is minor between the K0 to K3 Roy.
Carbs are different, cables, clocks, top yoke, switch gear, seats, seat catch, oil tank, side panels, fuel tank, fuse box, wiring harness, ignition switch, head light brackets, engine cases, clutch baskets and plates, gear box, gear selector assembly, cylinder heads, barrels, oil jets and for the rest you will have to ask Trigger or James

[ogre]

Thanks guys its great that u get different opinions.so i have had a think and one thing i do know is whatever happened it was in usa the frame and stampin etc was defo consistent with the condition of bike,so to me its part of the bikes history good or bad.james is right i could source a k0 frame fork bottoms etc but i would still sell it as a non original k0 like most others are thinkin about it the history of it is more interesting.i have to be happy in myself what i am selling and i know now thanks to u guys.i have a z1 and a z1a my first love(sorry guys) i know quite a lot about them. I have restored them both so they are NOT original even though the parts req for the z1 and z1a are mostly used original parts or nos new they were Not off the bike and if i were to sell the buyer will know everything i know.the z1a uk barn find for e.g. all the correct EUROPEAN spec parts even the steering lock correct i will not sell it as a uk Bike no provenence but i bought it knowing that.the cb is still a lovely bike and yes i will take a hit on it with the money but i am happy that i kind of saved it and it can be used.

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

Your asking price looks realistic to me I think condition speaks louder than some odd micro details known only by an Anorak.( No disrespect to Anoraks intended)

Don't take an out of scale financial  hit you do not deserve stick to your guns it's a nice bike we all know the cost of restoration is disproportionate to end value - a buyer will see it for what it is  a Pedigree even if it ain't KC Registered.

[Johnny4428]

I agree Ted. But as Trev says it’s great to have the very valued and varied opinions of this forum. And absolutely to know what is correct and not correct for a specific model of bike too if that’s what your into.😀

[royhall]

That said K0, K1,K2, K3 am I wrong to think they were improvements along the way by Honda?

Not really Ted, just marketing really. People will always upgrade to the latest model. There were improvements along the way but mostly minor, and some years the only change was colour.

I don't think it is minor between the K0 to K3 Roy.
Carbs are different, cables, clocks, top yoke, switch gear, seats, seat catch, oil tank, side panels, fuel tank, fuse box, wiring harness, ignition switch, head light brackets, engine cases, clutch baskets and plates, gear box, gear selector assembly, cylinder heads, barrels, oil jets and for the rest you will have to ask Trigger or James

Sorry Julie I misread the article. I thought we were talking about K2 to end of production. Obviously huge changes between K0 and K1. My bad, should take more time to read the posts properly.

[SteveD CB500K0]

We love Zs on here too and are not precious about threads on other bikes.

I have a mate with a Z1A. He has the same carb troubles as the rest of us.


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