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Offline Alexrayz

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Spoke renewal
« on: August 04, 2024, 10:34:41 PM »
Hey everyone, I hope you are doing good!

Cinza is finally leak proof thanks to that sweet OEM oil pressure switch from Nurse Julie!

Now that we’re finally in the maintenance phase of its life, I wanted to relace the wheels with fresh spokes.
Mine are all corroded and gnarly looking… Not a good look!
But looking up how to do it, it seems having a spoke torque wrench is advised .
I don’t really want to shell 200€ for such a specialized tool.

Do you have any ideas or tips on how to go about it? Is the spoke torque wrench mandatory in order to do it properly?

Cheers!


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Re: Spoke renewal
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2024, 12:53:48 AM »
No, you don't need a special torque wrench for that. Get a normal spoke spanner and tighten by feel.
The torque required is very low so be careful and keep the rim true all the way round. The spokes will all 'ring' with the same sound when it's right.
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Re: Spoke renewal
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2024, 09:21:20 AM »
Alright, so I guess I could record my spokes as they are right now to have a reference for when I renew them uh?
Something tells me after a few hours of pinging I might get ping-blinded :D


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Re: Spoke renewal
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2024, 10:05:33 AM »
Alright, so I guess I could record my spokes as they are right now to have a reference for when I renew them uh?
Something tells me after a few hours of pinging I might get ping-blinded :D


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This may be a mad idea but maybe its possible to use a clip-on (to the rim) electronic guitar tuner?

https://www.gak.co.uk/en/snark-qtsn5-clip-on-tuner/53856?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8MG1BhCoARIsAHxSiQlFRXUUtM5EiYWizBCBNgv3_fVy0MtWeAX7ZNNDTPJZ5wdsFLMiOecaAhS5EALw_wcB

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Re: Spoke renewal
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2024, 10:08:07 AM »
Alright, so I guess I could record my spokes as they are right now to have a reference for when I renew them uh?
Something tells me after a few hours of pinging I might get ping-blinded :D


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This may be a mad idea but maybe its possible to use a clip-on (to the rim) electronic guitar tuner?

https://www.gak.co.uk/en/snark-qtsn5-clip-on-tuner/53856?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8MG1BhCoARIsAHxSiQlFRXUUtM5EiYWizBCBNgv3_fVy0MtWeAX7ZNNDTPJZ5wdsFLMiOecaAhS5EALw_wcB
It’s funny I thought about it too, don’t how accurate or useful it could be but I’ll give it a shot.
I also thought of recording and then running the file through a spectrum analyser. I was studying this kind of stuff at work for harmonics, so could be fun (or not, depending on the hassle lol)


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Offline Alexrayz

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Re: Spoke renewal
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2024, 10:27:29 AM »
Thinking about it, I have no clue if the spokes were ever checked for slack. So maybe they are already at the wrong tension/ wrong “note”.

Would there be some volunteers to send a recording of their spokes? With multiple data point I get a more accurate image.

Also would be fun and it would give future reference for others.

Send me your “pings”!


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Re: Spoke renewal
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2024, 09:06:39 AM »
Apologies if this is obvious to you:
I've done a couple of wheels and the art is getting it true before any spokes are feeling tight. Snug, but not tight. Worth using something like coppaslip on the spoke threads, so it is the spoke tension you are felling, not any thread resistance. I used an axle in the soft jaws on my bench vice (vice rotated 90 degrees, bearings in the hub, so the wheel rotates at the side of the workbench). Then a plastic ruler flat on my workbench as a guide for lateral and vertical wobble. Works a treat. Don't get worried if there is a wobble at the point where the rim has been welded together, you'll never get that out. Just true the remaining 359 degrees of rim. This way, it's not difficult to get it to c.1mm true on both dimensions. That's more than good enough.

Once it's true, I then go round until all the spokes ring nicely, rather than 'thunk' when tapped with a screwdriver. Avoid a high pitched ('tink'). I do the tightening a small amount at a time, to avoid throwing the wheel out of true. Just 1/8th or less, increments and move on to the next spoke and so on, I keep checking it's still true. I don't tighten a spoke if it is already ringing, just move on to the next. I do not aim for the same note. That way, madness lies! Just get them near enough.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2024, 09:15:22 AM by Martin6 »

 

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