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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2014, 08:38:00 AM »
Got this back from Yamiya .. Not good news !!

Dear yamiya750,

Hi, Honda UK are preventing selling this seat in the UK because of the logo
and delivery / Tax / duty is making the price expensive for UK. Would you
consider making RED foam seat WITHOUT logo for UK please .

Kind regards
. Ashimoto

-honda_four_rider

Dear honda_four_rider,

Thank you for your email.
We've gotten the same request as you from some
customers from UK.
However, we need at least 50 seats order to manufacture
the special seat which doesn't have "Honda" logo due to the minimum order
quantity for the factory.
Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for
your kind understanding for this.

-yamiya750





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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2014, 09:38:29 AM »
Thanks Tom , no i never got to see the bike , the guy seemed keen  to sell,but after talking about the bike he gave me the impression that he was sitting on a really rare bike that was worth a fortune, when i said what a bike in that state was probably worth he stopped answering my texts , i was not going to persue it, as it sounded like a pile of rust, all i wanted was some spares from it, however i do have a PRR in pieces unfortunately i will probably be ebaying it this winter to ease my cash flow
pete

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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2014, 11:55:17 AM »
I'd have thought it would be perfectly possible to offer stencil kits -  a plastic card template and a spray can....

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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2014, 12:18:22 PM »
I cannot understand Hondas stance on this - a lot of owners of modern bikes also have classic examples of the marque. It will ultimately loose them some sales of new bikes as buyers get disillusioned - they need to take a look at the competition, Bmw still support pretty well every machine they built, owneres often have a 70's bike and on the strength of that buy a new machine costing over 10k. Ultimately discontinued factory support allied to an agessive attitude to aftermarket support will eventually translate to faster devaluation of their bikes at a time when Chinese copies are eating their market share - a matter of time before the bigger bikes face the same scenario as rebel 125 and 250 et al. Plenty of customers wanting the parts for the older machines and willing to pay for genuine prices. If they cannot get genuine the poor quality pattern parts will do nothing good for Hondas current solid reputation.
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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2014, 05:51:01 PM »
A few months ago I bought a look-a-like K0 seat for my CB1100A from www.japan.webike.co.uk  (you may have to google 'webike/japan' to hit the site.
Anyhow, just checked the site they have a large range of CB750 parts including 3 No. K0 manufactured seats with the Honda logo! They look good to me, but I'm no expert.

FREE p/p if you spend over £300.00. My seat was delivered within 5 days, I had to pay the vat & Royal mail fee. I would certainly order from 'webike' again.

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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2014, 07:04:52 PM »
Love the look of your 1100 seat Al...

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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2014, 07:20:36 PM »
Thanks James, big improvement (comfort & looks) on the original Honda seat
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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2014, 07:44:17 PM »
honda replica spares could ruin hondas quality reputation,but parts from quality sources such as Yamiya appear to be approved
to wear the coveted logo,

I personally dont like the Honda stance on this,
I think they should support their history and heritage by allowing quality parts to be manufactured  to keep classic Hondas  running,and
looking at there best,

if they are refusing to allow  parts to display the logo over a quality issue,surely some sort of compromise can be sorted,
the other thought,is much worse,they want to finish the use of old classic bikes,because they,Honda no longer make any money from
them !!!
about 10 years ago ,Honda racing was really arrogant,they believed  there bike,the RC212v5 was all that was needed to win,
forcing V,Rossi to go to Yamaha,the history show they were WRONG !!
Honda is not invincible,
hopefully an understanding can be reached,

LOL sorry for the rant !!
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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2014, 08:59:12 PM »
This was my attempt to create a CB750K0 seat from a new K1 one ( hence the Genuine Honda '300' part stamping on the base) but the cover contour is just not right... obsession again ::)
Cheers ... AshD

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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2014, 09:05:10 PM »
Looks bloody good to me Ash would anyone know

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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2014, 09:08:09 PM »
Looks bloody good to me Ash would anyone know

Mick

I would, Pete would, James would and Kettle738 definitely would! The proper article is a thing of sheer beauty. That German guy who bought the new K1 cover  from me  must have thought all his Birthdays had come at once  :D

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« Last Edit: September 30, 2014, 09:11:53 PM by AshimotoK0 »
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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2014, 09:16:24 PM »
Fair enough they are quit different
I thought they went like that with age

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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2014, 10:15:14 PM »
Fair enough they are quit different
I thought they went like that with age

Mick

Yes Mick point taken and you are correct  but the original seat had a hard insert in the 'ducktail' bit, which made it more pronounced and there was a definite step down profile, which my efforts did not really achieve.
Not so bothered about 'red' foam though, and wonder what the non-red foam seat is like that PMC and Yamiya sells as it is significantly cheaper.

Cheers ... ash
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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2014, 03:17:19 PM »





This was my attempt at making a ducktail seat for my K0, it has the proper honda base aftermarket foam and yamiya cover, the trouble is the foam makes it look to puffy, so i am going to take it back apart and shave the foam, then it should look quite good  ( I hope)
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Re: Honda Blocking Saisei from stocking seats /covers
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2014, 07:01:51 PM »
Pete
Dont know not seen one up close but it does look a bit crinkley was that the look then?
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