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Offline Drew400

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400 Frame Enquiries
« on: February 25, 2015, 10:18:27 PM »
Hi all,

I'd appreciate your thoughts on the two photos.

1. What's the bracket that sticks up from the side of the rear frame arm for? My parts catalogue shows one on each side, but my bike's only got one on the offside (poor thing).
2. There are two holes on each side of the rear frame arms. My parts book suggests that I should only have one on each side to fit the indicator stalks. I guess someone drilled the extra ones for a rack or some such, unless you peeps know better.

Thank you,

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Re: 400 Frame Enquiries
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2015, 10:24:46 PM »
The hook is a helmet holder and not sure why you have two holes.

Looks like someone had fitted this type of stem before > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB-CM-CT-SL-CX-CD-CG-400-250-550-Indicator-STEM-/300661761209?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4600d664b9
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Re: 400 Frame Enquiries
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2015, 08:31:31 AM »
Nice one Trigger,

Helmet holder, eh? I've probably got a sticker in my pack of new stickers to put near there (when I open said packet and apply as the final embellishment to the completed renovation... a bit like applying transfers to a completed Airfix model!).

Not sure where those indicator brackets went. The indicators were fastened to a rack that I'm keeping, for now at least.

Much appreciated,

D.

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Re: 400 Frame Enquiries
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2015, 08:55:49 AM »
If you can't find the helmet holder sticker i got some with japanese writing should you wish to confuddle peeps

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Re: 400 Frame Enquiries
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2015, 10:14:32 AM »
Ha ha, cool, ta.

I'll have a look and let you know if not.

Cheers, D.
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Re: 400 Frame Enquiries
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2015, 11:14:08 AM »
Hi Drew,

Aren't there 2 hols for the indicator brackets? One for the mounting bolt and one for an alignment stub.
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Re: 400 Frame Enquiries
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2015, 12:01:35 PM »
Hi Lynx,

There are no alignment stubs on my brackets. However, they fit fine and don't slide around thanks to their [ profile design that loops over/under the frame.

Is my bike odd in that respect?

Ta,

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Re: 400 Frame Enquiries
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2015, 12:04:16 PM »
I'll check mine this evening.
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Re: 400 Frame Enquiries
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2015, 12:18:29 PM »
Definitely only one hole each side on my frame. Can't check the indicator mounts as the rear indicators on my bike were on straight stalks.

The holes look a bit big for the mounts trigger suggested, as I recall the mounting screw size for those was only something like M5.

Could have been holes for a rack support. If you still have it were there corresponding holes in the rear mudguard, otherwise the holes would be 'blind'.

Oh, and did you win that fuse box lid?

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Re: 400 Frame Enquiries
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2015, 12:50:07 PM »
Hi Chris,

The parts book suggests rubber washers with metal inserts. Found some in my parts bin and hey presto, they look and work fine (to my non-expert eyes and for my rather mongrel bike).

Both of the holes are threaded so that adds to the rack theory. However, I removed some rubbish looking generic brackets so I guess my rack was made for a range of bikes rather than dedicated to 400/4s.... although that still doesn't explain the holes.

Maybe they were a weight saving technique, ha ha... although why thread them?

The fuse box cover went for £13.75 so I missed out. Seemed a bit steep to me for something hidden by the side panel (on a mongrel bike). I may fashion something myself or may not bother.... in the meantime it's another weight saving device!

Cheers,

D.

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Re: 400 Frame Enquiries
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2015, 01:55:12 PM »
Here's a pic showing the location of the label for the helmet holder:

My bike has a thin bracket on the nearside, probably what you can see in the parts book. It is a guide for the wiring to the rear lamp.

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Re: 400 Frame Enquiries
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2015, 01:57:46 PM »
Thanks Chris, I might stick that on tonight to give me an even greater sense of making progress!

Cheers. D.
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Re: 400 Frame Enquiries
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2015, 08:29:55 AM »
Thanks Chris,

I'm not much of an ebay follower so your prompt is much appreciated.

Cheers, D.

p.s. Couldn't find my supply of stickers last night. I must learn a new way of storing all my parts!
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Re: 400 Frame Enquiries
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2015, 07:50:09 PM »
Chris, failed again.

I'm rubbish at this eBay stuff. It went for £12.25 this time. One day, I'll be able to afford one! In the meantime, I'm getting out my woodworking kit.

Cheers, D.
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