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Front fender and rear shocks
« on: March 25, 2015, 03:36:41 PM »
I am trying to figure out what way do the front fender go.
Please have a look at the picture to see if I am making a mess.
The other thing is the rear shocks.
I am having big problems with the nut to hold them in place. I have tried 17cm bolts but they are too small, the next size up is too lose. Any idea?

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Re: Front fender and rear shocks
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2015, 04:33:07 PM »
I am trying to figure out what way do the front fender go.
Please have a look at the picture to see if I am making a mess.
The other thing is the rear shocks.
I am having big problems with the nut to hold them in place. I have tried 17cm bolts but they are too small, the next size up is too lose. Any idea?

Thanks
El__burro


Honda use alot of M10 fine threads, rear shock lower bolts with standard unit are M10 fine and top fixing nuts are usually M10 fine.

Standard M10 thread is too coarse, useful to buy a thread pitch gauge to check what you are dealing with.

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Re: Front fender and rear shocks
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2015, 05:57:15 PM »
There should be another stay on the mudguard. 
As Martin says, the rear shock nuts are M10 X 1, which is metric fine thread, as opposed to the usual M10 X 1.5
Where's that 10mm socket got to?

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Re: Front fender and rear shocks
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2015, 12:53:38 AM »
Ref your comments Mike...  I (think I agree) and yet when I bought my K2 it'd been fitted with a similar mudguard to El burro's. The odd thing was that the included fork brace was correct for my early K2 forks.... implying some (where in the world?) CB750s had these fenders?

Anyways all burro.... hope these pics of use.

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Re: Front fender and rear shocks
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2015, 09:55:14 AM »
I THINK the single stay guards were fitted in the US? they also have a shorter front portion ( Perhaps why the other stay wasn't fitted? ) British weather requires something more substantial!  ;D

El Burros shows a more symetric shape and I think I can see hints of a hole and staining where the missing stay was fitted? Hence my vote is also a missing stay and on backwards.

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Re: Front fender and rear shocks
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2015, 12:07:57 PM »
Yes, it's missing a stay, the rear one.
Since then I have tried to fit the callipers, i am quite sure it mounts 2 disks and therefore 2 callipers. Is there a way to tell the difference between the right from the left?
Also how do I connect both callipers to the master cylinder?

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Re: Front fender and rear shocks
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2015, 02:09:07 PM »
The calipers are identical as the bikes never originaly had two calipers, you can connect in one of two ways
(1) use a longer twin banjo bolt with proper copper washers in all the joints
(2) remove the brake light switch and use a single banjo with washers there------If you want a brake light switch use a GL1000 master cylinder(I find this a better idea anyway as it moves more fluid) and connect to the brake light switch on the master

If it has never had twin discs you also need a different speedo drive plate. if you send me an email direct I did a word  document years ago on fitting twin discs to a 500

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Re: Front fender and rear shocks
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2015, 11:59:17 PM »
The calipers are identical as the bikes never originaly had two calipers, you can connect in one of two ways
(1) use a longer twin banjo bolt with proper copper washers in all the joints
(2) remove the brake light switch and use a single banjo with washers there------If you want a brake light switch use a GL1000 master cylinder(I find this a better idea anyway as it moves more fluid) and connect to the brake light switch on the master

If it has never had twin discs you also need a different speedo drive plate. if you send me an email direct I did a word  document years ago on fitting twin discs to a 500
I'm quite confused, I have 2 disks, 2 callipers and a splitter,  yet you say that the bike never had 2 callipers?

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Re: Front fender and rear shocks
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2015, 10:53:20 PM »
Thanks,  please can anyone help me to understand the differences between the two brackets in the photo (one in e red, the other in blue)

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Re: Front fender and rear shocks
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2015, 06:05:25 AM »
The red one is for the early bikes the blue one is for later bikes
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Re: Front fender and rear shocks
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2015, 08:40:52 AM »
Thanks Ash,
I have one of each can i mount them?
Are the callipers the same though? (I also have a matching pair of brackets).
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Re: Front fender and rear shocks
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2015, 05:04:14 PM »
Thanks Ash,
I have one of each can i mount them?
Are the callipers the same though? (I also have a matching pair of brackets).
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El Burro, you need to use identical arms I would think, see the link below, its quite a good guide, you need to take your time and don't take any metal off anything unless you are sure of your measurements, I had to take a couple of mil off the offside lower mount (on the leg that is getting the new disc), get some shimming washers for the upper mounts so that you can make fine adjustments, I found it very straightforward (but I was apprentice trained many moons ago!), also take care with the threads in the sliders, the alloy is very soft and may be corroded as well, don't over tighten anything, the callipers are the same but you need a different master cylinder, the piston in the standard CB750 master cylinder is too small in diameter, David Silvers sells one for the early Gold Wing which is ideal (although I ended up using a Fireblade unit because it fits under the fairing better having a remote reservoir), I rode the bike on my driveway recently, only at 10mph, gave the front brake a hefty tug because I'd heard that the brakes are still rubbish even with twin discs, I nearly went over the bloody handlebars!!!, what they will be like at higher speeds I have yet to find out, good luck with your conversion, cheers Mark.

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Re: Front fender and rear shocks
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2015, 12:00:04 AM »
Would this line splitter fit my k2 without much work.
I am trying to find a good setting for a dual disk system.

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Re: Front fender and rear shocks
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2015, 07:37:43 AM »
Looks like it would fit but no provision for brake light switch, also the is only one mounting bolt on a K2 so you may need to fabricate an adaptor bracket

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Re: Front fender and rear shocks
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2015, 07:40:39 AM »
Thanks,  i have the light switch on the lever itself.
Size wise are we ok?
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