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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2015, 11:00:38 AM »
The bike is completely original & unrestored believe it or not. Original engine finish & cover finish. It's a US bike obviously.

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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2015, 11:36:57 AM »
well it looks beautiful and I love that orange!

I just checked and they don't do the contis in 90/90/18 and 100/90/18 :'(

So it's still the Metzelers or dunlop K82's. Noelia, what sizes are you running? I can't find the sizes above in that tyre either.


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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2015, 06:50:50 PM »
Bryanj, what size did you run in these tyres?

I am struggling to find anyone who will supply and fit a 90/90/18 front and I kind find a 100/90/18 rear for my bike.

The closest I have got is a 90/90/18 ME11 for the front and a 3.50 ME77  for the rear, is this what you used?

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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2015, 07:11:43 PM »
Bryanj, what size did you run in these tyres?

I am struggling to find anyone who will supply and fit a 90/90/18 front and I kind find a 100/90/18 rear for my bike.

The closest I have got is a 90/90/18 ME11 for the front and a 3.50 ME77  for the rear, is this what you used?

With a classic bike, you are making the classic mistake of using a modern tyre size for an old style tyre. Look up 3.00-18 for the front on a CB400 and 3,50-18 for the rear.

Found a 90/90-18 >>http://www.oponeo.co.uk/moto-tyre-details/metzeler-perfect-me-11-90-90-18-51-h-front-tl-m-c/?origin=prodlisting&gclid=CNOoxvDFvcgCFdXNGwodO_AGdg

Or a K82 >>http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Product.do?method=view&n=5769&g=301534&p=301576&d=124&c=4&l=2&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Base&utm_campaign=Classic%20/%20Commuter%20Tyres&gclid=CKeMlNfGvcgCFYgKwwodFO0Etg
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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2015, 04:36:57 AM »
I used them on a 500 which has a 19 inch front wheel but as Trigger said look for the real sizes not the metric ones

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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2015, 06:20:06 AM »
You need a 3.25 x 18 perfect ME11 and a 3.50 x 18 perfect ME77.

The front will be considerably dearer than the rear as it is not used on many bikes

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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2015, 07:50:57 AM »
Is 3.25x18 suitable for a 350? As mine has a 2.75x18 and looks tiny compared to the 3.50 on the rear

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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2015, 08:38:59 AM »
Is 3.25x18 suitable for a 350? As mine has a 2.75x18 and looks tiny compared to the 3.50 on the rear

STD tyres on the CB350F are the same as the CB400F, 3.00-18 Front & 3.50 Rear  ;) 2.75 is a size that I would use on the front of a 250cc.

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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2015, 11:32:49 AM »
Is 3.25x18 suitable for a 350? As mine has a 2.75x18 and looks tiny compared to the 3.50 on the rear

STD tyres on the CB350F are the same as the CB400F, 3.00-18 Front & 3.50 Rear  ;) 2.75 is a size that I would use on the front of a 250cc.

What do DS use on their rebuilds they sell? I guess it's Maxxis type.. I was planning to use these on the three twins (2xCB250K0's & 1x 350K1) that  I am building, as they look the part from an originality point of view. Any thoughts?

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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2015, 12:29:27 PM »
All the tire places I spoke too gave me these metric sizes, I just gave them the rim sizes old tire sizes and the bike it was for.
I guess they just gave the closest modern size.
 
It certainly narrows down the choices even more sticking with the original sizes exactly.

I don't think Metzeler make the front in a 3.25 x 18.

I emailed Metzeler yesterday, they  replied today and said this.

"Dear Andy,

Thank you for your email,

We would recommend the following available sizes for your bike/model respectively; please note that the below fitments must have clearance on the hugger/mud guards in both front and rear.

Front-90/90-18M/CTL 51H ME11- Part Code-112400

Rear-3.50-18 56S ME77-Part Code-130500 (conversion size to 100/90-18)

Please also note that we have a new classic pattern called Metzeler Sportec Klassik.

Kind Regards,

Name left out

Contact Centre

Pirelli Metzeler Moto UK "

I thought the maxxis look nice too and cheap,  does anyone have any experience with these?

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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2015, 12:56:01 PM »
Yes, Maxxis tyres are very good on my good lady's 650 shitehawk sorry nighthawk, good feel and grip in all weather, and resonably good mileage, and very reasonable prices. If Avon stopped making the roadrider tyres, Maxxis would also be my choice for my 750F1 as well

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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2015, 01:25:13 PM »
Recommended Roadrider sizes (from the Avon website) are 90/90-18 (51V) front and 100/90-18 (56V) rear, which is what I have on my 400.
I think the looks of these are not dissimilar to the TT100s and Avon Roadrunners that many people fitted back in the 70s in place of the original Jap rubber.
Also be aware that some manufacturers recommend different tyre pressures from the original tyres.
Pressures according to Honda are 26 psi front and 28 psi rear; Avon recommend 26 psi front and 30psi rear.

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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2015, 01:29:20 PM »
Just wondering how are the modern tyres with tubes fitted in them?

If I put tubes in my minibike tubeless tyres they take on a funny shape
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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2015, 02:09:51 PM »
I would like to know this too bullit as I think I'm going to try and fit the tyres myself to save money.

This might be a stupid question, but how would you work out the tube size? To the rim or the tire?

if I have an imperial front rim and a metric front tyre for example?

What did you do Chris?

Good to know Maxxis are good hairy, might be a simpler option if the above turn out to be too difficult to get.

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Re: Metzeler ME11-ME77 Classic
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2015, 03:12:24 PM »
I got my tyres and tubes from Tyre Tec (http://www.tyretectrading.co.uk/).
At the time they seemed the best deal when buying the tyres and tubes together as there was a single delivery charge.
Tubes come in a limited number of sizes. Mine are by Continental, as that was what Tyre Tec sell (they also do 'budget' ones).
Front is size D18, which is suitable for the following 18inch rim tyres: 3.00-18, 3.25-18, 3.60-18, 80/90-18, 90/90-18 and 90/80-18.
Rear is size E18, which is suitable for the following 18inch rim tyres: 3.25-18, 3.50-18, 3.75-18. 4.10-18, 100/90-18, 110/90-18, 100/80-18, 110/80-18.
I haven't noticed anything strange about the shape with tubes in the 'tubeless' tyres.
What I should probably have done (learning from mistakes here) was to replace the rim tapes too, so I am going to have a go at doing that.

 

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