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SOHC.co.uk Forums => Other Bikes => Topic started by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 10, 2024, 11:04:02 PM
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A bike has come up for sale a restored Maico but how on earth do I work out it's actual value when there are so few on the market?
It's up for offers over £4,000 looks very tidy in the photo - that said it's not popular on the used market like the 400 for example. Fewer nostalgic owners too as there were not many in the UK.
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Over on kleinanzeingen.de (in Germany) there's currently three listed for sale.
Asking price around 3000 euros.
Hope that helps
Skoti
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Thanks Skoti that's helpful interestingly the three listed do not appear to be standard colour schemes.
I've seen some sold at auction with a few being pulled out before the sale dates.
I'm waiting for some detailed information from the one in the UK.
I'm always confused by sellers who say offers over £4,000 it's like a baseline auction reserve. Be interesting to see just how thorough the restoration has been when he sends me some photos.
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Join the Facebook group and ask there. Or is it the one that is currently for sale at offers over £4000
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Join the Facebook group and ask there. Or is it the one that is currently for sale at offers over £4000
I am in the FB group & a Club Member that's one I'm looking at Moorey.
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It actually looks quite nice. Would the what looks like Hammerite finish on the dash be a factory finish back then .
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It actually looks quite nice. Would the what looks like Hammerite finish on the dash be a factory finish back then .
I'm no expert but yes it was a finish similar to Hammerite mine was Silver iirc.
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If its as good under the panels it's got to be worth a view. Did you notice someone had sent a PM about it
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I have sent him a PM he did not do the restoration himself although he has restored Maicos he has owned the bike for 10 years.
It will be interesting to see if he has some photos from when it was done originally.
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Just looked at the Facebook page out of interest. Not a scooter man personally but like the chunkiness "butch" look of that.
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When I bought mine as a teenager it was a sort of accidental purchase.
I went to Motorama in Chesterfield that was part of the old Bocklehurst Motor Group and bought an Ariel Square Four Combination - after riding less than 5 miles towards home I returned to the dealer as I just found it too difficut to control especially the steering wobble. If I spent more money they would refund me on the Ariel so I spent another £20 and bought a Maicoletta 250cc in Black & Yellow.
The Maico & the Heinkells were the RR of scooters but dirt cheap used as the market volume was Vespa & Lambretta.
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And of course historical links to our own UK Honda bikes.
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Interesting history Ash iirc you have the posted this information previously - worth a re-post for any new memebers.
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That’s a great piece of Honda history that letter.
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And of course historical links to our own UK Honda bikes.
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Come on Ash - fill me in on the detail? The letter you posted makes sense but what do I read into this? Was it delivered to Maico? Sorry if I'm being dim!
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And of course historical links to our own UK Honda bikes.
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It's all here Tim. There was an advert in Motorcycling Magazine requesting interest as agents in the UK for Honda.
Come on Ash - fill me in on the detail? The letter you posted makes sense but what do I read into this? Was it delivered to Maico? Sorry if I'm being dim!
It's all here in the link below Tim. There was an advert in Motorcycling Magazine in '59 requesting interest as agents in the UK for Honda. Maico replied and the letter was the Honda handwritten reply. There was then the formation of 'Hondis' and then lots of skullduggery from the rival Honda G.M.B.H. in Germany.
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Well worth a sift through and read and a few other letters in the link too.
https://www.vf750fd.com/vf750f/k_hall.html
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Thanks Ash. Read the relevant bit to this post but lots of nighttime reading there!
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I've somewhat lost interest in the above Maico as the owner who has had it for the last 10 years seems to have no detailed knowledge about what work has been done to the Scooters engine etc - he is going to list it on ebay.
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I agree with that Ted
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I'm in no rush Bryan - it was restored by an unamed person who lived in Deerfield who restored bikes for the Robin Spalding British Scooter Collection. No replies when I asked about its possible mileage has it had a rebore or crank bearings- just that it is 65 years old - in need of some touch up to bits of the paintwork.
TBH the timing is not great as I have no room to store it until / if ever I part with my 400. I'm going to the Stafford Show in April with my BiL so will meet some of the Maicoletta Owners Club again.
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Spoke to another Maico seller yesterday his bike needs re- commissioning and priced at £3500. That has potential for a huge money pit.
I'm minded to bin the idea - might be easier to consider a more modern alternative such as a Forza if I need the scooterish experience again.
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I know it doesn't have the rare classic appeal of the Maicoletta or the talking point when you stop somewhere but you will not be disappointed with the Forza - I'm just about to jump on mine again for a decent ride and it's a great piece of kit. Can only speak about the 350 version.
I'm also looking forward to my big trip to Holland/Germany/Austria from Orkney on it with two other couples - I'll be solo, so not quite as outclassed! At 74 (75 while I'm away) I don't know how many more adventures are left!
Ian
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Ian that sounds like a great trip you have planned.
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Had a great ride out today Ted - just good to be out in the (slightly) better weather - missed all the showers but roads still dodgy from the very necessary farm traffic and a few extra pot-holes. We now have all of our accommodation and ferries to and from Europe sorted. It will probably be a 3000 plus trip and the others have not been over there before. We used to go a couple of times a year by GoldWing so this will be quite different for me with no rear s(e)at nav (Christine!) and a much smaller, lighter bike.
Ian
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From Scotland I would be tempted to take the Newcastle - Norway party boat and ride down from there - that would add in Norway + Denmark & possibly Sweden too!
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Hi Andy thanks for the info,
We have used the Newcastle/Ijmuiden crossing before but this time, for various reasons we have already booked Hull/Rotterdam (I am from Hull) and as I have travelled numerous times from Europoort down to our first 3 nights in the Mosel valley and know the route well, that seemed favourite. The others can do some of the other navigating on other legs. Years ago, Christine and I would just rack up and seek 'Pensionen und Gasthäuser' on the fly but it could prove more difficult with the 5 of us, so I have booked all the accommodation - some places in Austria were already fully booked and I started just after New Year. Things appear much different post C19.
Sorry Ted, for hijacking!
Ian
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Whilst tidying up our loft Wendy found an album that she made up for my 40th Birthday these two were amongst some of the treasures, the Honda might be 2462 YG.
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Love those old square photos.
Instamatic?
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Love those old square photos.
Instamatic?
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Kodac 124 Instanatic camera iirc lots of my photos were poor colour quality as a film would last a year & developing was expensive back in the 1970's.
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Lovely bit of history there Ted and great pics,
Leeds/West Riding of White Rose (God's own) Country plate you've mentioned on the CB 77.
Ian
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Were you off to work in the first photo Ted. No armoured clothing in those days!
The Honda looks lovely, bet you wish you still had it.
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TBH as a student I could not afford a Belstaff or proper riding gear back in the day. I was at the local Tech now Derby University. My winter gloves were a huge pair of brown gauntlets that my Dad gave me I suspect they were ex-AA or RAC.
The jacket was a short Gortex type a sort of bubble finish - never had a Parka with or without a Union Jack. I had some old blue waterproof trousers with bib & shoulder straps for wet weather. It was only an eight mile each way journey - the colder it was the slower I went to avoid the wind chill factor.
Oddly enough out of the two it's the Maico I hanker for most - VRM no longer listed on DVLA - it is now a 60 or so year old scooter.
I belive it was Jo Kagan later Barron Kagan under Harold Wison who was often photographed in his beige Gortex coat made by Kagans Company.
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A bike has come up for sale a restored Maico but how on earth do I work out it's actual value when there are so few on the market?
It's up for offers over £4,000 looks very tidy in the photo - that said it's not popular on the used market like the 400 for example. Fewer nostalgic owners too as there were not many in the UK.
Now sold temptation removed thank goodness - until I see another!
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Lovely bit of history there Ted and great pics,
Leeds/West Riding of White Rose (God's own) Country plate you've mentioned on the CB 77.
Ian
Correct Ian it was first registered in Leeds/Bradford area iirc.
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Just a bit of an update my hunger for a Maicoletta 250 Scooter has subsided until I see some at Stafford Show next month. I suspect that they are difficult to find spares for with only a handful of folk who know how to keep them going so I want common sense to prevail. I do not think they sold in big numbers in the UK.
Early this morning I remembered that I briefly replaced the Maico with a Viscount Prior.
It was an awful replacement but dirt cheap I think it was £35 for a Viscount Prior 200 - very tidy bodywork in Blue with less than 20k miles on the clock. I believe they were previously made under a different brand but ran into legal problems over the name. https://cybermotorcycle.com/euro/brands/prior.htm
It rode as though the seat had a massage system built into it - the engine vibration was so strong at anywhere above 50 mph it sent your bum numb. I sold it within a few weeks of ownership making a small gain in the process. Attached photo is from the Web.
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