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Title: Starting them young...
Post by: JamesH on March 27, 2020, 03:48:57 PM
Doing a bit of ‘big boys’ meccano with the kids today. About time they started to learn how to use tools / practical spatial thinking...

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Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: taysidedragon on March 27, 2020, 06:27:25 PM
I wish I'd had that at their age. 👍
Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: Green1 on March 28, 2020, 08:00:16 PM
That looks great I loved Meccano as a kid. The propper metal one with tones of choke hazards not the modern plastic crap
Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 28, 2020, 08:14:49 PM
You need to sell a K0 750 mate and buy 'em one of these.. No.10 Meccano set

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/333548506524?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=333548506524&targetid=876069274256&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9050383&poi=&campaignid=9446200300&mkgroupid=96613551315&rlsatarget=pla-876069274256&abcId=1139366&merchantid=6995734&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6_vzBRCIARIsAOs54z59VbbAwFf61ngTgZOsn75mwEIR-c2jxMS-fnXcvaYpshHJAPN95_caArOiEALw_wcB
Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 28, 2020, 08:18:55 PM
Always wanted one of these

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_U-238_Atomic_Energy_Laboratory?fbclid=IwAR2fb9IS_sI23ZuZ9EfUwTDnb2_sEHUcwOBKAVjXHF1Ud9E4I7JGEhdSNUs



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Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: Green1 on March 28, 2020, 08:22:20 PM
I never fancied science kits as a kid as it was to much like school in my eyes.
Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on March 29, 2020, 07:30:09 AM
Philips Electronic Engineer kit.

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Made my first radio receiver at about 8 years old.


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Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: hairygit on March 29, 2020, 09:43:41 AM
Philips Electronic Engineer kit.

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Made my first radio receiver at about 8 years old.


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Nice! Mine was a Tandy (Radio Shack) kit my grandfather gave me for my 10th birthday in 1975, still got it! It seemed space age at the time, included a solar cell and a photoelectric cell among other fascinating parts. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200329/d3614d435fb5cbb5336ba77dac5fce93.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200329/e1ab99f37b39b232ce976208cb31816b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200329/55c255f123728c3878aa4beac21f7ef7.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200329/cf0601c8997ff6c03714b72d0c3ada7b.jpg)

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Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 29, 2020, 09:56:23 AM
Philips Electronic Engineer kit.

Made my first radio receiver at about 8 years old.


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I had that kit too Steve including  the add on kit that had two little loudspeakers (that you must have had too).

TUT TUT!  Steve  ;D ;D ...you didn't fit the little red rubber 'cow's udder' things that protected the AF116 & AC126 trannies from wire fatigue .

Sadly the germanium transistors used in these sets, particularly the AF116,  will have developed 'tin whiskers' inside. This is also the case on NOS transistors too. It's the reason why in radio's you get from a car boot, if working, will crackle when you shake them .. it could be dry solder joints tooof coursec but on at least a couple I have found it was the dreaded 'tin whiskers' growing inside the trannies.
Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 29, 2020, 10:05:07 AM
Also had one of these ... absolutely brilliant .. my mate DodgyRoger still has one,  as his mum was a demonstrator in a large Department store in Hull for toys like this (plus 'Lotts'  chemistry sets)' .

They were so good that architects used them to model new house designs in the 1960's and show them is Estate Agents windows.

http://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/comments/brickplayer

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Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: Orcade-Ian on March 29, 2020, 10:39:34 AM
I love this thread and the demise of Meccano in its original guise is probably the reason that this hands on creative construction is no where near as prevalent as it was ‘when I were a lad’ which has led to the shortage of homegrown skilled labour.  I don’t remember Brickplayer but my mate had a Bayko set (or was it just Bako?) and you slid bricks and windows etc between thick wire ‘poles’. Really pleased that JamesH has found a suitable and very worthwhile method of ‘keeping things going’

Was that department store Hammonds or Asbestos Ash? - thanks for that other info you sent me,

Ian

Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on March 29, 2020, 11:37:23 AM

I had that kit too Steve including  the add on kit that had two little loudspeakers (that you must have had too).

TUT TUT!  Steve  ;D ;D ...you didn't fit the little red rubber 'cow's udder' things that protected the AF116 & AC126 trannies from wire fatigue .


Sadly that’s an internet image Ash.

I do remember those fiddly little bits of red rubber though.


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Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 29, 2020, 12:37:13 PM

Was that department store Hammonds or Asbestos Ash? - thanks for that other info you sent me,

Ian

Hammonds Ian.. I also had a Bayco set passed down from my brother.


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Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 29, 2020, 01:08:49 PM
I use that profile all of the time for test rigs as in James's kit and I notice now that there are lots of manufacturers in the Far East selling it a lot cheaper than the supppliers I used about 15 years ago (which were then mainly German or Swiss). Some of the components are amazing engineering tools (leadscews, motor systems etc.) ... albeit very expensive from the European suppliers)

A few years ago I  built quite a complicated rig for life testing a product for a company but they built the frame themselves using the 'Item' stuff (see link) At 'Sign'off time their 'tw*t' of a safety guy tried to tell me that my electrical panel wasn't earth bonded properly (which it was, as I eventually proved to him ... so he duly signed it  off and I got paid).  I was then a bit of a smart arse (what's new I hear you say  ;D) and told him that their framework was anodised and consequently, seeing as he was being so picky with me,  you couldn't guarantee the continuity of earth bonding at every joint. He then came back at me and claimed every joint would surely have a conduction path caused when it was screwed together and that, if my suggestion was correct, then why didn't the manufacturer of the aluminium sell an earthing kit. Turned out when we we checked in the catalogue that lo and behold there was a mega expensive earthing kit about ten quid each  .. so he had to fit 100 of these kits to every joint on the test rig.

These are the ones I have used in the past:-

https://kanya-uk.co.uk/

https://www.boschrexroth.com/en/xc/products/product-groups/assembly-technology/topics/aluminum-profiles-solutions-components/index

https://www.item24.de/en/productworld/building-kit-system/item-profiles.html
Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 29, 2020, 01:16:26 PM

I had that kit too Steve including  the add on kit that had two little loudspeakers (that you must have had too).

TUT TUT!  Steve  ;D ;D ...you didn't fit the little red rubber 'cow's udder' things that protected the AF116 & AC126 trannies from wire fatigue .


Sadly that’s an internet image Ash.

I do remember those fiddly little bits of red rubber though.


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Here ya go Steve !!  ;)

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Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: Orcade-Ian on March 29, 2020, 02:01:07 PM
Relating to our bikes, I think some companies use Boschrexroth extrusions for these adventure pannier systems.  I believe Hammonds has now gone in the recent closures - what a great store that was - my Aunt Maureen ran HR (nearly as bad as Steve’s LIVEWARE!) there for many years when it was properly called Personnel. 

Ian
Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: matthewmosse on March 29, 2020, 10:15:41 PM
Awesome stuff, I was looking af it around Christmas for my two, bit beyond our budget at the moment but a truly excellent toy. Some of the vintage toys are pretty awesome too. I had ( still have ) Lego and technic lego, very educational. Our kids have lots of Lego, and meccano.
Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: AshimotoK0 on May 10, 2020, 02:45:13 PM
My Mrs. was moaning last week about a 5 metre length of the 'Big Boy's Meccano' stuff, similar to what James's kids have been playing/learning with, that's been stuck down the side of our garden for about ten years. (great adventure playground for spiders and woodlice etc.  ;D)

So I chopped it up and found some extra bits in my garage  and made myself an engine assembly stand to suit my Honda 4 & twins engines. Beauty is it's totally adjustable. I was concerned about stability but it turned out mega strong. This stuff is Kanya (Swiss IIRC) but there are German types such as 'ITEM'  and  Rexroth-Bosch. Problem with the Kanya stuff is it needs a drilling jig for the special, but really neat,  fastenings they make and it costs about 200 quid .... so I made my own from an old 18mm cutter (which I found in my junk box and is marked B.S.A. and had the three guns logo on it ... not sure what it was intended for or how I came by it).

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Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: AshimotoK0 on May 15, 2020, 12:49:35 PM
Somebody asked me about my lathe with milling head  in the background of the last pic. I think it was made about circa 1973 in Austria and I bought it  about twelve years ago from the estate of a model maker but I have never really used it.  I have been trying to teach myself to use it during the lockdown.  :)

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Title: Re: Starting them young...
Post by: Bryanj on May 15, 2020, 01:01:09 PM
Machine mart used to sell something similar
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