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Title: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: alexdecker on June 22, 2023, 08:20:03 PM
Hey all

Going for a longer ride in Southern Sweden, and am doing packing lists right now.

Can anyone advise a good set of tools to bring with me, that would allow me to do regular maintenance? I can think of some stuff myself, but wanna make sure I get all the tips and tricks I can get, and don't forget anything important :)
Title: Re: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on June 22, 2023, 08:44:13 PM
Good break down Insurance cover.   😁😁😁
Title: Re: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: Johnwebley on June 22, 2023, 09:05:37 PM
Good break down Insurance cover.   
Yes,

Otherwise something to check the points

Are you happy to take the wheel out to fix a puncture?



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Title: Re: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: deltarider on June 22, 2023, 09:35:12 PM
Just the toolkit Honda put under the seat and a multimeter, that's all.
Title: Re: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: Lobo on June 22, 2023, 11:07:35 PM
Spare plug? ….. having changed one roadside last week. The best thing you can surely do is to give the bike a really thorough service / inspection < you depart.

Designing a toolkit by committee suggests you may need a support van 😂.
Title: Re: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: Oddjob on June 23, 2023, 12:03:11 AM
Fuses, a small bag of them. Electrical problems can rear there head at any time and being stuck without a spare fuse means robbing one from another circuit which has it's problems as well. Some feeler blades, just in case. A tin of puncture repair foam, just in case.   A small box of bulbs, just one of each kind used on the bike. That's all that comes to mind straight off.
Title: Re: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: Matt_Harrington on June 23, 2023, 09:11:06 AM
Ken is right. The only issues I have had in the past on long trips is electrical. I'd add a little coil of wire, insulating tape etc and maybe a cable repair kit. The more you take, the less you will need! (Murphy's law and all that!)
On my trip to IoM last year for the Manx, I left my toolkit in the Hotel room - big mistake as not only did I do that but also my mate did - of course we both broke down! Then I needed to try and find someone with a spark plug spanner. I eventually did after finding that quite a lot of riders didn't have one. In fact one guy had spare plugs and no spanner (he was ribbed mercilessly by his mates!) 
Title: Re: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: K2-K6 on June 23, 2023, 09:34:57 AM
If you've not got a suitable volt meter, I find these very good https://www.soselectronic.com/en/products/uni-t/ut-120-c-186001 small and internal battery seems to last heading towards 10 yrs !

Almost no consideration to pack as so light and small, ideal for most things to understand faults etc, not too expensive, mine's been used more on helping others out on camping trips etc.

Hopefully, with good preparation, you'll not need anything on your trip, but good to have basics as noted. Bike tool kit more or less covers it, unless you've got any special bolts swapped onto the bike.

May add a Bahco adjustable spanner (Swedish, I believe  :) ) to help with anything outside tool kit capabilities, again I've often used to help out others without specific tools.

Puncture probably one your worst problems, but most don't change/fix those anyway.

My list ;- bike tool kit, Bahco, volt meter and a few fuses.
Title: Re: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: Trigger on June 23, 2023, 08:14:21 PM
Never works out what tools you carry, when you break down you never have the right tool to do a roadside repair. Was out riding yesterday when i noticed my left leg getting wet, stopped and saw petrol which looked like coming from number 1 carb. Rode quarter of a mile to the pub and got a beer. Went back outside and turned the fuel tap back on to noticed the pipe split at the tap.
Went back in the pub and asked the landlord if he had a stanley knife. Cut about 10mm off, connected the pipe back and was on my merry way again  ;)
Title: Re: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: Johnny4428 on June 24, 2023, 07:55:12 AM
Never works out what tools you carry, when you break down you never have the right tool to do a roadside repair. Was out riding yesterday when i noticed my left leg getting wet, stopped and saw petrol which looked like coming from number 1 carb. Rode quarter of a mile to the pub and got a beer. Went back outside and turned the fuel tap back on to noticed the pipe split at the tap.
Went back in the pub and asked the landlord if he had a stanley knife. Cut about 10mm off, connected the pipe back and was on my merry way again  ;)
Like the way the beer got priority Trigger!🤣🤣
Title: Re: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: Trigger on June 24, 2023, 08:35:43 AM
Always get the beer in first, keeps the landlord happy  ;)

Had two local mates who planed to go to the IOM this year, both are mechanics and have never been. One on a BMW RS and the other on a BMW RT, both very new bikes with under 16,000 miles.
The went to set of and the RT starter motor would not engage so, they thought no problem we will just bump start it, five miles down the road the same bike ran out of fuel ( though the Gauge said it was half full ). They pushed the half a mile to the fuel station but, had to wait some time for it to open. By the time they fueled up, they realized  that they were running late for the ferry but, at least they were on there way.

A quick blast across the county and got to the ferry just in time. A couple of miles off the ferry on the IOM and the RS lost all drive. Pushed it to a farm and left it in a barn. Then they went to and frow with luggage to the B&B they were booked in at. Went back the next day with some tools to strip the rear end down and found that the drive shaft splines had gone. Ordered another drive shaft from the UK which turned up two days later and got it all working again.

On the way home the RT ran out of fuel again as he had forgot that the gauge was not working correctly  ???

They said, they had a nice time apart from all the break downs and sodding about  :) :) :)     
Title: Re: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: Matt_Harrington on June 24, 2023, 10:38:53 AM
....They pushed the half a mile to the fuel station but, had to wait some time for it to open.....

We pushed the RT in the IoM to the ferry terminal - that was knackering!
Title: Re: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: Johnny4428 on June 24, 2023, 10:39:28 AM
Not a good ad for the BMW brand! Or maybe just highlights that anything can and does happen with any make or age of bike.
Title: Re: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on June 24, 2023, 11:23:57 AM
If it's anything like post 2005 Mercs the over complication of electronic equipment that does not like water can lead to breakdowns on even relatively new vehicles.

Certainly with Mercs the accountants put pressure on costs to parts suppliers that resulted in significant failures on diesel 4 cylinder injectors circa 2013/4 iirc.
In one instance the injector suppliers had changed the type of adhesive used to secure the coils in the injector body to save on cost as they had won the contract on a tender that was not really good business. (Instead of opening/closing the injector the coils just moved up/down inside the sealed housing at the top of the injectors!)

We had dozens of Mercs that had an injector failures within a few hundred miles of delivery or even during the PDI. Early victims had new injectors fitted that failed again within weeks of replacement.

As a result of the recalls it pushed the supplier to the brink of insolvency - Merc could not find an alternative supplier so they ended up buying the debt laden company returning the adhesive to the original MB specification.

A fear expressed here is that replacing the point based ignition system on a sohc unit with electronic might not always be a roadside fix.




Title: Re: Going on a longer camping trip. What tools to bring?
Post by: alexdecker on June 26, 2023, 08:40:18 AM
This was marvellous tips gentlemen! Thank you very much :)
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