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Title: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: andy120t on December 10, 2021, 01:51:49 PM
..just thought it might be interesting to share and receive a few thoughts for seasonal gifts (I'm thinking low cost, so don't say ' 0-mile Sandcast, or similar!).

My starter for ten -
Stealing Speed book by Matt Oxley. All about two-stroke development in the Eastern Bloc by a chap called Walter Kaaden and how it was pinched by Ernst Degner who defected, stole the tech knowledge and helped Suzuki become a top two-stroke  manufacturer. Great read.
 
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: K2-K6 on December 10, 2021, 02:20:28 PM
Book looks very interesting, a good idea certainly.

A contribution https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283101740928 vernier caliper with secondary adjustment carriage, you lock the secondary part and then turn the barrel to get it accurate in fitting what you are measuring, surprisingly precise compared to just single clamping. A very nice unassuming device, but very usable. 
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: Bryanj on December 10, 2021, 02:31:29 PM
Sneaky putting Mitutoyo in the description though
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 10, 2021, 07:05:41 PM
Just read "A Bikers Life" by Henry Cole I never had him down as an old Etonian. Interesting read nonetheless.
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: Laverdaroo on December 10, 2021, 07:28:48 PM
I'm with Ken on that one.

I have never seen anyone take a corner quite like Henry Cole, it's a wonder hes still alive as every time you see a pre rehersed corner shot in what ever he's on, it maes you wince.

He's been about a bit though, good on him 8)
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 11, 2021, 07:18:53 AM
Just read "A Bikers Life" by Henry Cole I never had him down as an old Etonian. Interesting read nonetheless.

Sorry but Henry Cole is NOT a biker, he's something alright but a biker he isn't. Yes he rides a bike but there is more to being a biker than that, it's a frame of mind, it's a religion, it's loving the smell of Castrol R and the sound of a well tuned engine.

You are so very wrong Ken - read his book - do not go off his TV persona - he was biking from a very young age - it's in his DNA from early childhood - as was his drug addiction - you do not race a  Classic Brough on the Salt Flats unless you are an adrenaline junkie.

Only slight turn off for me is his Ffing & Blinding in some chapters.

Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 11, 2021, 11:19:06 AM
I bought this book earlier this year .. not cheap but a fascinating insight into the last days of BSA and great info about Umberslade Hall and the BSA/Triumph Bandit/Fury DOHC twin that never reached full production.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/BSA-Motorcycles-evolution-Classic-Reprint/dp/1787115488/ref=asc_df_1787115488/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=372380634855&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5427028890496679777&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006816&hvtargid=pla-801650900535&psc=1&th=1&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=79041494520&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=372380634855&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5427028890496679777&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1006816&hvtargid=pla-801650900535


This guy has a bunch of videos on his passion for the BSA Fury DOHC 350.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSfSl6NukaI

Also I recently visited a bloke in Hull who had a lovely 400/4, CB77, C72 etc . He had treated himself to a thermal imaging camera to check out exhausts when setting up his bikes. Sounds like a useful tool to have .. considering the price of 4 into 4 pipes and potential bluing. I must text him and ask him about the device he has. Or has anyone else used one on bikes?
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 11, 2021, 12:27:44 PM
Hi Ash,

Thermal imaging cameras that are any good are not cheap last time I looked  - it's a shame the inner two plugs are so recessed I always liked the old Colour Tune Plugs for setting up multiple carbed engines.
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: Laverdaroo on December 11, 2021, 04:53:04 PM
Just bought a colourtune Ted and with a biy or alterations, you can use it on the 400's for set up. Its a bit of a squeeze but it's doable. The biggest problem is getting hold of one, theyre like hens teeth at the minute and all stockists are showing zero stock. I bought one and managed to get the correct adapter from a pal up North but would have been waiting until March had I waited for my backorder to be forfilled.
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 12, 2021, 11:02:37 AM
Hi Ash,

Thermal imaging cameras that are any good are not cheap last time I looked  - it's a shame the inner two plugs are so recessed I always liked the old Colour Tune Plugs for setting up multiple carbed engines.

Last time I looked NOS Genuine HM300 pipes were £3k +  ;D . I will ask the guy which one  he bought. It may have only been a non-contacting IR thermometer.
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 12, 2021, 11:20:54 AM
Just bought a colourtune Ted and with a biy or alterations, you can use it on the 400's for set up. Its a bit of a squeeze but it's doable. The biggest problem is getting hold of one, theyre like hens teeth at the minute and all stockists are showing zero stock. I bought one and managed to get the correct adapter from a pal up North but would have been waiting until March had I waited for my backorder to be forfilled.

I borrowed mine on a long term loan (a few years) off a mate - I returned it to him - now he can't find it!
He used it on his Lotus Cortina in the 1960's. I assumed they were out of production good to hear you have one.
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 13, 2021, 11:02:15 AM
Just read "A Bikers Life" by Henry Cole I never had him down as an old Etonian. Interesting read nonetheless.

Just listened to this as a freebie audiobook  (3 month free trial on Audible).

A real warts and all story .. he even admits he's been a real tw*t but you have to hand it to him picking himself up from the gutter and in the process bringing bike programmes/Sam Lovegrove & Allen Millyard to our TV  screens. His chapters on sheds is spot on IMHO. the audiobook has 300 hundred odd good ratings and no real negatives ... Give it a go Ken    ;D ;D.. The  free audio book I  got last month was John Cooper-Clarkes autobiography ... a Salford lad so you can't go wrong there Ken even though he never mentions Queens Park Motors in it  !  ;D

https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/A-Bikers-Life-Audiobook/1787471071?qid=1639393079&sr=1-1&ref=a_search_c3_lProduct_1_1&pf_rd_p=c6e316b8-14da-418d-8f91-b3cad83c5183&pf_rd_r=BGXA73RNT9MDRCD8J2W9
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: smoothoperator on December 13, 2021, 11:11:10 AM
Recommend Jupiter's Travels by Ted Simon, a great book for the armchair motorcyclist adventurer. Can be found for less than £2 second hand.
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: K2-K6 on December 13, 2021, 12:28:34 PM
Just read "A Bikers Life" by Henry Cole I never had him down as an old Etonian. Interesting read nonetheless.

Just listened to this as a freebie audiobook  (3 month free trial on Audible).

A real warts and all story .. he even admits he's been a real tw*t but you have to hand it to him picking himself up from the gutter and in the process bringing bike programmes/Sam Lovegrove & Allen Millyard to our TV  screens. His chapters on sheds is spot on IMHO. the audiobook has 300 hundred odd good ratings and no real negatives ... Give it a go Ken    ;D ;D.. The  free audio book I  got last month was John Cooper-Clarkes autobiography ... a Salford lad so you can't go wrong there Ken even though he never mentions Queens Park Motors in it  !  ;D

https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/A-Bikers-Life-Audiobook/1787471071?qid=1639393079&sr=1-1&ref=a_search_c3_lProduct_1_1&pf_rd_p=c6e316b8-14da-418d-8f91-b3cad83c5183&pf_rd_r=BGXA73RNT9MDRCD8J2W9

I feel similar about Henry Cole, he's candid about his own shortcomings and lets others judge. Brings things to mainstream tv that generally lay outside common themes (soaps, sitcoms, panel shows etc) that make interesting material.  Perfect? Is any one, and would be boring if everything was found to be so. One man's perceived error can look superb to another observer   :) and vice a versa.

One of his best attributes is the appreciation of someone's skills in repairing or creation of items, and generosity of praise for those very real skills. All appears fine to me.
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: K2-K6 on December 13, 2021, 12:37:23 PM
Colortune, I've still got the one that I watched my father use on a B series 1800 BMC car when much younger, along with the fascination of "seeing" the combustion in there long before I could drive.

However, they only really give much insight to off load engine running conditions (not really possible to replicate full torque transient mixture conditions while standing still, unless dyno used) and would ordinarily be used for setting idle mixture on their target market vehicles.  Appears very limited use for these engines.

Temperature of exhaust outer material is similarly limited too, I believe. And for similar reasons of accuracy, even correctly running mixture at full load will heat the primary exhaust material way above blue temperature toward orange and why Honda chose to make their original pipes double skinned to prevent the outer showing this.
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: andy120t on December 13, 2021, 04:08:13 PM
Jupiters a Travel is a good call. Pottering round the world on an old Triumph!  Ted Simon also wrote a follow up about 30 years later when he retraced his journey, but I didn't ever finish that - it was pretty feeble and felt a bit like he was trying to cash in on the first one!  Maybe the newer bike and newer era just didn't feel the same - and it felt as if he thought that too from the things he wrote.
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: Laverdaroo on December 13, 2021, 05:30:51 PM
Just read "A Bikers Life" by Henry Cole I never had him down as an old Etonian. Interesting read nonetheless.

Just listened to this as a freebie audiobook  (3 month free trial on Audible).

A real warts and all story .. he even admits he's been a real tw*t but you have to hand it to him picking himself up from the gutter and in the process bringing bike programmes/Sam Lovegrove & Allen Millyard to our TV  screens. His chapters on sheds is spot on IMHO. the audiobook has 300 hundred odd good ratings and no real negatives ... Give it a go Ken    ;D ;D.. The  free audio book I  got last month was John Cooper-Clarkes autobiography ... a Salford lad so you can't go wrong there Ken even though he never mentions Queens Park Motors in it  !  ;D

https://www.audible.co.uk/pd/A-Bikers-Life-Audiobook/1787471071?qid=1639393079&sr=1-1&ref=a_search_c3_lProduct_1_1&pf_rd_p=c6e316b8-14da-418d-8f91-b3cad83c5183&pf_rd_r=BGXA73RNT9MDRCD8J2W9


Nice one Ash, just signed up to give it a go. As an ardent Radio 4 Extra and Planet Rock addict it should be good ear fodder whilst in the shed. Cheers 8)

Going to have an hour or two tonight whilst plating some carb gubbins :)
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 14, 2021, 10:22:54 AM
My 'Holy Grail' part at the minute is a Genuine NOS bottle of late 70's/early 80's Benylin LOL  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: K2-K6 on December 14, 2021, 11:41:54 AM
My 'Holy Grail' part at the minute is a Genuine NOS bottle of late 70's/early 80's Benylin LOL  ;D ;D

You can get a bottle of the hard stuff Ash, but have to ask them as they keep it behind the pharmacy counter "Pholcodine Linctus" if you have no problems with Codine.

You may have to carry it in an old old brown paper bag though  ;D
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: Laverdaroo on December 14, 2021, 05:18:00 PM
Is that similar to Boots own brand cough linctus that they still sell behind the counter. It's just random brown syrup but by god, it tastes bad! You had to get better just to stop taking it! ;D


Got as far as chapter 28 today at work on my head phones, on the audio book with Hery Cole, Ash.  Rather enjoying it to be honest its great. Good suggestion Ash :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Christmas Present Ideas with a 'bike theme!
Post by: haynes66 on December 14, 2021, 05:22:17 PM
anything for my phil read rep would do for me!
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