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Other Stuff => Desperately Seeking!! => Topic started by: Laverdaroo on January 27, 2023, 01:07:04 PM
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After a front calliper if anyone has one going spare?
Unbeknown to me the one I bought and nannied up has a little brass insert missing in the ‘line in’ thread meaning the hard line won’t clamp up tight on mine. Has anybody got a spare they want rid of?
Thanks in advance
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500 dont have insert only the 750 and the bolt centres are different between the two, can probably find a used one somewhere Roo
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I’m sure I have one if Bryan has no luck! I will have a look.
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You may have looked but if all else fails DK have a few.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_dkr=1&iconV2Request=true&_blrs=recall_filtering&_ssn=twowheelspares&store_cat=0&store_name=dkmotorcyclespares&_oac=1&_nkw=honda%20cb550%20caliper
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Mine will be cheaper! “Mates rates” 😂
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After a front calliper if anyone has one going spare?
Unbeknown to me the one I bought and nannied up has a little brass insert missing in the ‘line in’ thread meaning the hard line won’t clamp up tight on mine. Has anybody got a spare they want rid of?
Thanks in advance
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Do you mean the raised profile inside the caliper thread end - I thought it was machined into the caliper body!
(I assume you have the correct profile on your brake pipe end.)
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Evening,
Yes, I wasn't aware when I bought the extra caliper for the build, that there were differences so never looked, stupidly. Not my first mistake and wont be my last I'm sure soI'll just knock it up to experience and file it in the 'Bugger' file.
Looking at the one that came with the bike and I actually think is the original one, there appears what I thought was like a raised metal bit but did wonder if it was machined into the body. I only realised when fitting the genuine hard brake line lowers that the newly aquired caliper wouldnt tighten up leaving the line swinging. Thats when I stopped to re evaluate the situation and have a brew.
Either way, as I've got nice shiney new OE hard lines I'm positive all is well there so its the caliper. The problem lies with me buying the wrong bit!
So as it appears I'll buy any old crap as long as it has Honda stamped on it, has anybody got one for Mejima as she's all lob sided at the front and it's not a good look! ;D ;D
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Mine will be cheaper! “Mates rates” 😂
Snigger ;D
Cheers fellas, if you wouldnt mind having a rumage on my behalf that would be ace. I had a good look last night Ted and clocked most of those but as always, ask on here first and see who's got what lurking.
:)
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IIRC Roo the caliper does indeed have a raised cup inside the caliper body, it was a sort of inverted cup and the hard line is dished inwards to accommodate this fitting.
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I'm not going mad then, that's good ;D
when I looked at the original one it amost looked like brass or some sort of soft metal that marked quite easily when prodde with a pick so it kinda makes sense as to why it's there but it just seemed a bit lomg winded in manufacturing terms why not machine it to allow the removal of having to fit another part? . The other, bought one, is a lot deeper in terms of inlet and has evidence of something living there at some point in it's existence in the same space, hence why I pondered on the machined/insert question before posting.
Rather than faff about, for what it's worth it's easier to nanny up a second hand one than pay silly money off the internet and it's not like they're hard to do so easier to do that I reckon. .
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Roo, the 750, or at least the earlier ones, do have a removable bit and you can swap the bleeder, or at least the yanks say you can, never tried it myself
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That's all well and good, but where the bloody hell am I going to find one of them? Easier, surely to get another caliper, that was my thinking.
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Something like these ?
.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175332951798?hash=item28d2a886f6:g:YU0AAOSwrO5iuXTj&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4Eux5Vz6entoG4SiUfIPpOm%2B6x3ZJlY9l%2BnfCazzn9T7uca0p7l8OMF4arzX%2FJ04Aq%2BrDsQS8BUrBqXipPKjT99UZDb%2BzJmLE3gN6uV1MKP7tNYT7RO1LklK37K1mEFgoYY46wdNYLluBTm0T89Vgt8Fd9VjPU6x6ud9cACX5rN%2FQb%2F5I3cpoDL%2FsSEMcQzQpCeHysZw0TqANah47HxvE8WCGvcUaK2NfaFCppZBb%2BH3D0kxM4297C%2F7B3nMI4OBdyaRNe%2Bb9JaYDvTZE4cIVFeeobOJP7wv%2BzspXqQ6dbE7%7Ctkp%3ABFBMzvHCgL9h
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I really wouldnt know Ted, I'm no going to try to remove the one in the good caliper for fear of knackering it so I have no reference. Kinda looks similar-ish but really dont know,
Showing my ignorance
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I share your fear - a good replacement calliper is needed.
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Yup, my thoughts exactly Ted ;D
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Something like these ?
.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175332951798?hash=item28d2a886f6:g:YU0AAOSwrO5iuXTj&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA4Eux5Vz6entoG4SiUfIPpOm%2B6x3ZJlY9l%2BnfCazzn9T7uca0p7l8OMF4arzX%2FJ04Aq%2BrDsQS8BUrBqXipPKjT99UZDb%2BzJmLE3gN6uV1MKP7tNYT7RO1LklK37K1mEFgoYY46wdNYLluBTm0T89Vgt8Fd9VjPU6x6ud9cACX5rN%2FQb%2F5I3cpoDL%2FsSEMcQzQpCeHysZw0TqANah47HxvE8WCGvcUaK2NfaFCppZBb%2BH3D0kxM4297C%2F7B3nMI4OBdyaRNe%2Bb9JaYDvTZE4cIVFeeobOJP7wv%2BzspXqQ6dbE7%7Ctkp%3ABFBMzvHCgL9h
These are for bicycle hydraulic hose to provide clamping of hose ends (they shorten etc to fit bike) onto the ferrules.
In particular they are not a fit for automotive and these fit for use with mineral oil system.
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Thanks, like I say, never come accross anything like this befire as I simply haven't had to so all new to me. It's something similar like that I'm sure.
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There's two different shape inside the caliper (those you have here) are single or double flare type.
Taper, like a funnel shape, used on virtually all bleed nipple to close off simply against that same taper on the nipple. Can also use "double flare" hard brake pipes without mod, most car caliper are like this for both ports.
Single flare pipes require the inverse in calpier to seal, so protruding funnel shape.
They may have made the original with removable "funnel" shape to facilitate use as double disc as you'd have to swap input with bleed to keep the brake lines symmetrically designed, or you'd get one caliper with bleed front orientation and one rear when paired.
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This type of arrangement
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Soisit best to persue trying to find one orfar simpler to find another caliper in your experience? Litttle bit out of my comfort zone TBH so need all the advice I can get on this one. Happy tosppend the cash on one but would rather save a bit if there's an alternative.
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That completely fts with my mental imageof ehat I thought I saw in the good caliper. Great picture, Thanksfor that,I always used loads of piccies when teaching, far easier to grasp than a randome description. cheers.
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Excellent illustrations K2-K6 - as always a picture paints a thousand words.
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Isnt it, I was getting a bit convexly , double flared about it in my head., that piccy completey backs up my initial findings and thoughts 100% :)
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Soisit best to persue trying to find one orfar simpler to find another caliper in your experience? Litttle bit out of my comfort zone TBH so need all the advice I can get on this one. Happy tosppend the cash on one but would rather save a bit if there's an alternative.
You'll need more input from Bryan, Ken etc on Honda's parts type than I can give, or others that have previously done it.
I make up the pipes to suit things I'm working with using a flare tool but you've already got that fitting which you need to match on recipient part.
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Isnt it, I was getting a bit convexly , double flared about it in my head., that piccy completey backs up my initial findings and thoughts 100% :)
I stole it from the MG Owners club website by way of stealthy clip of their image ;D
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Just to confuse you more whilst the pipe is the same size metric and imperial flares are different especially where thenut pushes on the pipe, just going in garage to look for an easy one to find Roo
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Fair do's and thankyou. It seems a shame to bin a caliper for the sake of a tiny insert but if it's not available then that might have to be the case. At least I've grasped the info which is half the battle. Top info as ever, thankyou., :)
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This is what I’ve got Roo! A bit disappointed don’t seem to have the rear of Caliper or the bolts.
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It's probably not appropriate as you've already bought the hard connectors Roo, but the banjo arrangement for anyone doing this may offer solution that's intrinsically neat to get the line in with whatever flare exists
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This a bicycle one (couldn't find a decent photo of motorcycle detail) that has the outer surface of the hole finished to accommodate banjo and copper washers to seal without flare interaction.
Many rear caliper use this type (moto-X particularly) as its low profile and less likely to snag and damage the pipe in use. Same as master really.
Can also be used with two pipes (slim banjo in pair at mc) right the way through and no joints etc.
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Gotcha, completely understand it, cheers. I simply didnt know about them hence why I never looked andd in this predicament. You live and learn!
Johnny, could you have a look down the threaded part and see if you can see a reducer type article as discussed above? I'll bob out in half an hour and try to get some piccies, handy though as I only need that half of the caliper in all honesty so all in, so far, you are the man Johnny ;D
I'll get back in a bit with ome piccies. I'll do oneof the offender and one of the good one for comparison and give you soething to go off as to what 's needed. Thanks for having a look mate thats really good ofyou,much appreciated. ;) ;) :)
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How about this
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Had to post pic first to see if it would, run out of gas in my plumbers torch so couldnt warm up the fittings to undo! You can take the lot and return the rest later mate
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Roo, mine is according to Nigel in a previous posting an inverted type fitting, it is from a 550. Yours if any good unless otherwise, no problem either way.
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Absolutely ideal Jonny, thankyou. Let me know via pm details and we’ll sort it. Cheers mate.
Bryan, cheers pal but it keeps your set up complete and as a one so hang onto it, Johnny has only the half I need so spot on
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Monday morning she’s in the post Roo!😜
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Legend status achieved
‘Combien da dosh Rodders?’
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Just going to be a right “plonker” and ignore that! 🤣 just glad to help!
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Bless yer mate, thats really kind.Thanks again. :D
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Legend status achieved
‘Combien da dosh Rodders?’
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A bit like "La Dolorosa" when eating out in Majorca. 🤔🤔🤔
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Evening Johnny, calliper came today and super chuffed I am too. In the dishwasher as I type
Cheers mate, you’re a star
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Evening Johnny, calliper came today and super chuffed I am too. In the dishwasher as I type
Cheers mate, you’re a star
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👍👍👍 your welcome!