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Title: Brake calipers
Post by: El__burro on January 31, 2015, 09:48:28 PM
Hello having f****d up my brake callipers i am looking to replace them with a decent pair ( i am not on a rush but..)
I'll be browsing the net to see if a pair comes up at a decent price.
My bike is a K2 are other model suitable?

Does this forum have a part swap or sale session?

Regards
El__burro
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Trigger on January 31, 2015, 09:58:36 PM
Why are they Fu..ed up ? These are not a easy part to find second hand in good condition. DSS do repro replacements.
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: El__burro on February 01, 2015, 01:23:50 PM
This f****d up.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/01/ecf4003cb14d7e30d990279a1b4c2ca8.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/01/ad10b762b75fd621d37325552c330fc4.jpg)
My last resort will be DSS, I guess I have plenty of time before I get to the brakes.

Thanks
El__burro
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on February 01, 2015, 01:52:06 PM
Is there photos on here cos cant see jack ;)
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: tom400f on February 01, 2015, 02:12:28 PM
Do they block imageshack in France, Bitsa? They look like someone has attacked them with a cold chisel
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on February 01, 2015, 02:18:48 PM
Tom
Dont think so but I cant see any of his photos, no problem with any others
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: tom400f on February 01, 2015, 02:28:26 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/01/ecf4003cb14d7e30d990279a1b4c2ca8.jpg
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/01/ad10b762b75fd621d37325552c330fc4.jpg

Wouldn't want you to miss out... quite an example!
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Norniron on February 01, 2015, 02:35:00 PM
Landfill
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on February 01, 2015, 02:51:29 PM
Is that the piston?

Strewth!


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Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: MarkCR750 on February 01, 2015, 04:24:53 PM
I have studied the photos at length and I concur , they are f*cked, DS repro parts is a good bet cos you know they will work perfectly, costs more than second hand but it's worth it to save hassle, if you do end up getting second hand ones and need to remove the Pistons its best to blow them out (with air not dynamite).
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on February 01, 2015, 04:26:32 PM
Tom
It seems not allowed here your links thankyou go to BWScreen
Cheers anyway
Bitsa
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: hondaking on February 01, 2015, 09:51:03 PM
Bloody hell that's one hell of a mess. Had a friend try to drill out a broken spark plug out of a 400/4 head and what a mess he made. But did restore the head to good again. Moral of the story if you cannot do it leave it alone 
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: El__burro on February 01, 2015, 09:53:52 PM
Unfortunately there is no reset button in real life. It's a very costly lesson.
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Trigger on February 01, 2015, 10:01:22 PM
Unfortunately there is no reset button in real life. It's a very costly lesson.

I have a tool to get those out  ;) Don't bin them i will take them as a little experiment.
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: El__burro on February 01, 2015, 10:57:33 PM
Ive seen a video on ytube about a technique with a grease gun.
Unfortunately too late.
Happy to pass them to you if you need.
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Bryanj on February 02, 2015, 06:20:21 AM
Not too late for grease gun but those drilled holes worry me
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: El__burro on February 02, 2015, 08:15:29 AM
Erm... There is a hole in the middle of one of them...
 ???
El__burro
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: tom400f on February 02, 2015, 10:20:50 AM
Well, OTOH, if the pistons are corroded in that bad even if you dropped them in diesel for a week and grease-gunned them out, would the surfaces not be so bad they were scrap anyway? Just asking...
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Trigger on February 02, 2015, 12:53:08 PM
Well, OTOH, if the pistons are corroded in that bad even if you dropped them in diesel for a week and grease-gunned them out, would the surfaces not be so bad they were scrap anyway? Just asking...

You never know until you get the pistons out ;)
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: tom400f on February 02, 2015, 01:12:31 PM
Well, OTOH, if the pistons are corroded in that bad even if you dropped them in diesel for a week and grease-gunned them out, would the surfaces not be so bad they were scrap anyway? Just asking...

You never know until you get the pistons out ;)

True

Just the bleeding heart in me, that's all...  :-[
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: El__burro on February 26, 2015, 09:40:54 AM
Do K1 callipers fit k2?
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Trigger on February 26, 2015, 10:03:35 AM
Do K1 callipers fit k2?

Same Caliper. I never received those damaged ones through the post.
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: steff750 on February 26, 2015, 05:52:37 PM
Quote
Bloody hell that's one hell of a mess

 ;) yes i can agree on both counts
1 they are f***ed
2 the grease gun works
don't under estimate the power of grease guys, ive seen that stuff keep the tracks pumped up on 300 ton diggers
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: El__burro on February 26, 2015, 06:19:25 PM
These calipers are on the way to you Trigger.
I have just bought a new (used) one
It seems to be in good condition. I'll have to extract the pads somehow.
El__burro(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/26/5de10b834f3bf5b3047cb6962814c45b.jpg)
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Trigger on February 26, 2015, 06:55:28 PM
That caliper will still need a full strip with a new piston and seal.
I look forwards to a play with those. I recon that i can alloy wield them up and a bit of machining.
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: El__burro on June 04, 2015, 11:06:08 PM
Are the spring on the callipers all the same, can they be replaced with other type.
Although they are relatively cheap, with Vat and p&p still over £10 for 2 springs...
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/04/a8e628c78fe8d324e92e32ffeab6f09f.jpg)

Thanks
El__burro
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: El__burro on June 05, 2015, 02:54:31 PM
Any ideas on how to get the bolts out of this calliper?

Thanks
El__burro
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Bryanj on June 05, 2015, 05:27:35 PM
Gentle heat and a well fitting allen key, if all else fails you can drill the heads off with a drill that just fits in the hole then etract the left over bits with vise grips
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: mike the bike on June 05, 2015, 06:05:53 PM
Or weld an old Allen key to the bolts
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: El__burro on June 05, 2015, 07:11:37 PM
Some heath and a perfect fit allen key did the job. Thanks a lot Bryanj.
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Johnwebley on June 05, 2015, 08:03:21 PM
Are the spring on the callipers all the same, can they be replaced with other type.
Although they are relatively cheap, with Vat and p&p still over £10 for 2 springs...
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/06/04/a8e628c78fe8d324e92e32ffeab6f09f.jpg)

Thanks
El__burro

 if your stuck,don't use the spring,it was a common mod in the '70's,in case your worried,I haven't fitted/used those springs since then
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: El__burro on June 05, 2015, 08:41:15 PM
So, your suggestion is don't use them. Will it effect the functionality?
Thanks
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Johnwebley on June 05, 2015, 10:36:00 PM
So, your suggestion is don't use them. Will it effect the functionality?
Thanks

 yes,no problems,still use the adjusting screws,from about 1978 till 2012 I used without spring,and single disc,since then,I have
twin discs,again no springs,they work a treat
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: El__burro on June 05, 2015, 10:49:01 PM
aah, the adjusting screw... is that anything common to find?
thanks
el__burro


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Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Johnwebley on June 05, 2015, 10:56:32 PM
aah, the adjusting screw... is that anything common to find?
thanks
el__burro


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 have a look at this pic,it should show it
Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: ginger_jim on June 06, 2015, 02:16:06 PM
I've always found connecting the calipers to a master cylinder and pumping does the trick.  Isnt this the same caliper?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cb750-K3-K4-K5-Brake-Caliper-/141680943727?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20fcd7a26f

Interesting technique however! :o









Title: Brake calipers
Post by: El__burro on June 09, 2015, 10:40:23 AM
that was sorted with a grease gun.
if only id find out before screwing the first 2 callipers.
thanks ginger_jim, your technique would have also worked greatly.

P.S. is it necessary replacing the rubber washer in the piston slot?

regards
el__burro


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Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Johnwebley on June 09, 2015, 11:06:39 AM
that was sorted with a grease gun.
if only id find out before screwing the first 2 callipers.
thanks ginger_jim, your technique would have also worked greatly.

P.S. is it necessary replacing the rubber washer in the piston slot?



 do you mean the seal ? it is a square section rubber ring.they used to cost about £3,and fitting a new one
will improve piston retraction and seal ,well worth doing

regards
el__burro


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Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: royhall on June 09, 2015, 10:22:39 PM
I always use an old master cylinder and hose to pump them out, saves cleaning the grease out afterwards. Also its easy for a newb to damage the threads as they aren't really compatible and easy stripped.

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Title: Re: Brake calipers
Post by: Bryanj on June 10, 2015, 06:23:49 AM
If you mean the piston seal think of it this way---You only have one neck and if that fails you have no brake
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