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Title: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on April 02, 2017, 06:38:41 PM
Read the description on this apparent time warp black bomber.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292074509555
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: hairygit on April 02, 2017, 07:37:34 PM
Is that our Kettle 738 from this forum? Beautiful bike, but one cam too many!
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: Seabeowner on April 03, 2017, 10:11:43 AM
Seems to be already past the reserve.
I only hope it goes to a genuine enthusiast and does not re-appear on ebay in a couple of months with a 25% increase in price and the "enthusiast" turns out to be a dealer.
Seen it again recently with the green 750.
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: Chris400F on April 03, 2017, 10:25:15 AM
Eight bids and eight different bidders so far, so doesn't look like just one or two people after it.
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: MrDavo on April 03, 2017, 05:25:57 PM
I only have room for 2 bikes and 2 cars, must resist bidding, must resist bidding...

I would only go and put miles on it, ruining everything, once the original Yakahooha Deathmaster tyres had been taken off and stored, that is. My classic carporn mags often have super low mileage classic cars for sale at stratospheric prices that give their owners the same problem - once you start to use them and clock up the miles, the whole reason that you paid a premium price for them goes out of the window.
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: mike the bike on April 03, 2017, 06:20:42 PM
Couldn't agree more.  That bike would be wasted on me, with me putting lots of miles on it and getting it covered in shit and flies it would lose half of its value in no time.
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: Woodside on April 03, 2017, 06:46:18 PM
That bomber is fantastic and am very tempted but I'm trying to sit on my hands when it comes to bikes ....it's choka again here ....
If I did get carried away I'd put another set of wheels on it with more modern rubber and keep the old set in the loft...
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: Moorey on April 04, 2017, 12:00:21 AM
Bikes were always meant to be ridden and enjoyed on the road.
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: paul G on April 05, 2017, 08:20:36 AM
OK who bought it !! ;)
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: MrDavo on April 05, 2017, 11:21:02 AM
What did it get up to before it got pulled? I so hope it doesn't resurface at a hefty markup.

This is the sort of thing I mean with Classic cars, this dealer specialises in low mileage cars, here's a 10k mile 1965 E type for a quarter of a million quid. http://www.classicandsportscar.com/classifieds/classic-cars/jaguar/e-type/jaguar-e-type-4-2-series-i/6927841

Don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful thing, if I lived down south with their property values I'd probably sell my house and live in a tent next to it, (there'd be room, as the wife would have bailed) but you could double the mileage in a couple of weeks if you wanted to, putting miles on it would be just painful. I often wonder what the backstory is with these though, there was a silly low mileage 911 for sale recently, that turned out to have had a serious shunt very early on in life, then got laid up because of a dispute between insurers over who was paying to fix it. Eventually, as prices rose, it became worthwhile doing whoever was paying the tab. Also long term storage can cause more harm than use, unless done properly. Look at all those seized bikes that come from where the air is thinner and the climate gentler for sale on eBay.
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: AshimotoK0 on June 17, 2017, 07:05:11 PM
Here is it's upstart 'Young Pretender' stable-mate from Crawley. Perhaps it should be on 'unloved.com'  ;D

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB250G5-1976-Barn-Find-Time-warp-only-2k-Miles-CB250-G5-Motorcycle-/142416132186?
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: MarkCR750 on June 17, 2017, 08:19:24 PM
I remember when G5's looked butt ugly and nobody wanted one, save old men using them for commuting, but time has been kind to the rather conservative styling and I would definitely have one now, I guess the featured bike will end up with knobbly tyres and a brown leather flat seat, nothing wrong in that at least it keeps such machines alive, what's going to happen to all these "classics" in 15 years when we're all to old to be bothered (or worse) I wonder?.
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: AshimotoK0 on June 18, 2017, 08:04:26 AM
Yes I agree will probably end up as a cafe racer. I never considered it ugly, in fact quite a 'pretty' bike but a backward step engine wise compared with my beloved 'K' series engine bikes,  it replaced. Front end is basically a 400/4 front end . The biggest bugbear 'back in the day' was toasted cams and rockers and since the cam runs directly on the alloy of the head (admittedly the same as the 500/4 and 400/4's) then it's a very expensive meltdown. Bryan on here pointed out to me that ,unlike earlier Honda twins, you have to remove the exhaust, kickstart and clutch cover etc to clean out the centrifugal oil filter ... which lazy owners probably just skipped. Good thing about this one though is that the top end is pristine so if the buyer regularly replaces the oil it should last and make a nice bike. The other bad feature about this model was 6 gears, as it didn't need them. Honda realised this and removed the 6th gear on the later no-frills CJ model plus made the forks a bit longer and swinging arm a bit longer to improve the ride.
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: MarkCR750 on June 18, 2017, 08:00:41 PM
I used a friends CB250N once, I took it back to him after a 10 mile ride and said "it's not running right mate", he took it up the road and came back saying "it's fine", only then did I realise that it's immense sluggishness (it comparison to the GT250 I had at the time)was a design feature 😄
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on June 18, 2017, 08:20:02 PM
Had a 400 superdream taken out to 436,  Moriwaki cam etc. That ran ok.....
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: AshimotoK0 on June 19, 2017, 10:04:40 AM
Look at this: What a POS for the starting price.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB450-Black-Bomber-K0-1968-Barn-Find-11-000-Miles-/382129061378?hash=item58f8aabe02:g:RVwAAOSwvflZQnnQ
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: MarkCR750 on June 19, 2017, 02:07:32 PM
Had a 400 superdream taken out to 436,  Moriwaki cam etc. That ran ok.....

Never ridden one but have been told that the 400 even as standard was a great bike.
Title: Re: Black bomber, interesting read.
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on June 19, 2017, 02:46:10 PM
Had a 400 superdream taken out to 436,  Moriwaki cam etc. That ran ok.....

Never ridden one but have been told that the 400 even as standard was a great bike.

Actually raced it at Darley Moor in the open class up to 1300cc? Got 2 thirds too. Besides lack of fear on my part at that age, it was comparable to a prody tuned 350YPVS in a straight line - so not slow. Often wondered if you can still get the Moriwaki bits but even on the internet I can see no reference. For some reason, I remember I dealt with a place in Hazelmere, which surprises me as I seem to struggle to recall my last sentence sometimes!! ;D
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