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Of course Julie gives good advice.

But you may want to follow the principle of "if it's not broken don't fix it".

When my old CB750F1 was resurrected I first serviced the motor, then run it and addressed issues as they appeared.

But for example loads of stuff including crank and gearbox oil seals etc are still original and working fine.


Good luck with your project.


 

That was my late Fathers maxim - if it aint broke dont fix it - when I was a teenager I  ignored it of course dismantling things that sometimes I could not put back together. lol

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 Now that my little engine has run I'm turning my mind as to how far to go with an engine strip / down rebuild.
My original thought was to remove the cylinder head for valve grind, valve stem seals if they have them and checking piston tops etc.
That got me thinking about stuff like crank oil seals etc if they have them.

Without going OTT on cost what do folk here do in terms of knowing how far to go with a rebuild - any pointers / advice  as to essentials whilst the engine is out sought here. I will have to strip the clutch as the plates are bound to be stuck plus I am not in a situation to know if the gearbox is in good condition. If the piston tops look good I'm not keen to remove them unless its essential as part of the rebuild

I'm not afraid of the work involved more of an eye on cost and time involved in engine / gearbox strip downs.

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Set the static timing this morning took me about an hour to get it all done plus 30 mins spent making a decent loom connector & test lamp to set 1&4 then 2&3.

Cranked her over having got the oil light out first with no plugs fitted - plugs in after a fair bit of popping & banging she started to fire - more choke less throttle and away she went. Only a brief video but I am ecstatic !!

Hope the brief video works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XqxDCtCqKg&feature=youtu.be

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Another step closer today - re-fitted old Petcock with new tank strainer used the old seal but have the two that DS supplied - petrol tank back on the bike - 4 Litres of new Super Unleaded tap into Reserve position petrol filled the little in-line filter all looked okay for a minute or so then petrol started coming out of two of the overflow pipes. Big curse to myself !

Walked away wishing I had checked the carbs with fuel before I re-fitted them to the bike had a moan with a mate who said - have you tried a gentle tap on the carbs incase the floats are just a bit stuck as they were completely dry. Did just that followed by shaking the bike from side to side - fuel back into reserve no sign of any more fuel from overflow pipes. I've given it a good 5 minutes and no more fuel out of any of the overflows. I feel happy that's good enough for a planned initial start up.

I've checked for spark - nice visible spark at the old dirty spark plugs - I am now ready to check the static timing tomorrow morning then its new plugs in place and see if she will run. The new plugs that came with the bike are NGK D8EA as are the old ones that were fitted.

Fingers crossed for tomorrows start up attempt !! :)




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Anorak's Corner / Re: DoT 5.1 Brake fluid what specification do you use ?
« on: September 24, 2020, 11:32:05 AM »
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brake_fluid

Information posted above is quite informative,  and lucid, in discussing this. I hadn't looked before,  but it seems to give decent appraisal of using silicone and why such a system would have any contaminate within it.

Also description of difference between 5.1 and 5 regarding silicone content and incompatibility or not.

DoT 5.1 is not silicone based and can be mixed with all older Dot fluids fluids except silicone based fluids such 5.0.
DoT 5.1 is what I use in all my cars but will probably go for 5.0 for the Honda CB400F2.
Interestingly some cars now have none water based coolants that are more heat efficient than water/Ethylene Glycol based-  the new generation coolants  can be used retrospectively but every trace of water must be removed first. They make a special flushing liquid to remove every scrap of water - not cheap designed more for very high performance vehicles - very good for reducing engine corrosion from coolants. The flushing agents can cost around the same price as the waterless coolant itself so its an expensive conversion unless you have a fully stripped down engine to start with.

https://www.carparts4less.co.uk/p/evans-vintage-180-waterless-coolant-5ltr-993778061?gclid=CjwKCAjwh7H7BRBBEiwAPXjadrsC2OuV8WAb6mrckteD9t9qdPQ0b1HSdV3u2VPmC68ITog6DG-8rhoCrgMQAvD_BwE

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Anorak's Corner / Re: DoT 5.1 Brake fluid what specification do you use ?
« on: September 24, 2020, 12:22:21 AM »
DOT4 works perfectly well.  I think I have also used DOT3

I agree the older specification brake fluids all work okay but if you want to avoid the build up of water in the fluid caused by hygroscopic action imho the best options are later fluids unless of course you religiously change your brake fluid on an annual basis.

The amount of water absorbed by most brake fluids depends on many factors including atmospheric moisture content of the ambient air, unused new fluid storage, winter bike storage conditions & heavy braking causing fluctuations in fluid temperatures. I am minded to agree with NJ that Silicon based 5.0 is the best option especially for classic bikes that do not always get a lot of all year round use as it is not hygroscopic.

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Anorak's Corner / Re: Who is good at model dating?...oooeer.
« on: September 24, 2020, 12:10:34 AM »
Anybody remember Chevette E models, bad rust at 1st mot due to every multi story round liverpool being full of primered shells when factory on strike.
Basic model sold as "special" at cheap price

The Opel Kadette model C circa 1974 (based on the same floor plan as the Vauxhall Chevette) also launched a basic model with a small puny pushrod 1 litre engine to attract buyers who were worried about potential fuel rationing.  This variant was also to use up stocks of  bodyshells that had built up in Germany & Belgium due to the virtual collapse of the UK car market during the fuel crisis.

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Anorak's Corner / Re: Who is good at model dating?...oooeer.
« on: September 23, 2020, 03:20:47 PM »
On a similar note when I was in the car trade during the 3 day week due to power workers strikes - circa 1973/4 we sold new Opel Mantas Mk1's new in 1975/6 that were in fact 3 years old due to importers & dealer storage!!

They were discounted bargain buys as the Opels did not deteriorate much during storage unlike the Audi 100's that arrived from Audi UK with holes in the roof from Seagull droppings that burnt through the factory body waxing!!

We were paid by Aidi to fix them back to standard factory finish - we did a basic job on the pin holes and put a "Free" vinyl roof on them using a free Vinyl roof as a promotional tool.

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It's a strange thing but as I am approaching fitting the tank and getting close to an attempted start up I feel myself slowing down fearing unforeseen issues. I ought instead to be estatic at the prospect - is this normal !!

Oh boy, do I understand that feeling!

Thank goodness I thought I was alone with the unsaid dread!

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Thanks everyone for your support - now it's all about the Bike.

Last night I drained out the bulk of the 10 Litres of Evaporust - I  filtered back into original containers as its not fully spent yet.
Results are amazing - shame I can't get my phone into the tank - its 98% like new everywhere I can see clean silver metal!
The bit that's rather patchy is what I would describe as the inside hump near the filler cap - it has a few spots near the top of the ridge hence I can't call it 100%! Trouble is it needs about 13 Litres to full it right up - maybee another time.

Drained out the last remnants of Evaporust this morning - now the first rinse out using a pint or so of fresh petrol, 325 ml of Wynns Dry Fuel plus 1/3 pint approx of 2T Oil.
I will slosh that all around to try to inhibit any further rusting.

It's a strange thing but as I am approaching fitting the tank and getting close to an attempted start up I feel myself slowing down fearing unforeseen issues. I ought instead to be estatic at the prospect - is this normal !!

Knowing my luck the Carbs will decide to flood just to set me back a few days. Wish I had tested them with fuel before I refitted them now!

This Friday all things being equal it will be fitting the rebuilt Petcock and putting some proper petrol in the tank!

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I'm back on with working on the bike - going to remove the Evaporust today - then add some petrol with 2T oil to give the tank some inside protection.

As its sunny and getting towards the back end of the Carp season I'm fishing this afternoon - planning to fit the tank tomorrow and sort out the static timing.

Starter button pressing hopefully before the weekend.

Had a good phone call yesterday from my Urologist who says the CT scan reveals no further problems with cancer spread - right kidney removal should be in the next 4 weeks - end of October by the latest provided Covid does not mess up admissions.

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CB500/550 / Re: About to start my project, but it doesn’t...
« on: September 22, 2020, 10:56:14 AM »
Wow that sound of it running is music to my ears I'm really chuffed for you- that is where I want to be by mid October at the latest if I can!

I expect mine to be noisier due to the known cam chain rattle and leaking exhaust though. ;D

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New Member Introductions / Re: Introduction from Plymouth.
« on: September 22, 2020, 10:51:04 AM »
Wow thats a massive looking engine - or is it a trick of the fish eye lens!

I started with Honda's in the late 1960's so you are a youngster here unless you started biking in your 40's.

You will love this site - even the daftest questions are answered without mocking. (mostly lol)

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New Member Introductions / Re: Hello from North Yorkshire...
« on: September 22, 2020, 10:45:26 AM »
Welcome Dave,

I'm pretty new here as well - currently in phase 1 - getting my CB400F2 running before full  strip down over the winter. Slightly behind target date but there is no rush,

Next year I'm planning a run up to Mathewsons Auctions with the Missus - on 4 wheels though are you near there?
As you may have already discovered - listen to Nurse Julie she knows her stuff!

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